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anybody watch NFL?
« on: July 13, 2011, 03:35:27 PM »
after this lockout i cant wait too see my eagles back in action whose team r u guys rootin for?

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2011, 03:39:36 PM »
GO IGGLES!

There bloody well better be an NFL season this year, or I'm going to be one PO'd football fan.  I'll go into painful withdrawal.

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2011, 03:46:10 PM »
YA BUDDY! eagles are the best man! mike vick for the win and i really hope so too this lockout has to end pronto. watching sports center again they were talking about maybe a week or two tops before the agreement is final

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2011, 04:22:39 PM »
Im a cowboys / packers fan . I like the NFL because its football , some extremely tallented players , but I love the CFL and thats where my heart lies , but after Grey cup I have something else to watch . Hockeys ok but over rated .

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2011, 04:24:40 PM »
football is what i live for besides fishing! greatest sport and cowboys and packers hmm grats on the superbowl but it aint gunna happen again ;)

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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2011, 05:06:45 PM »
I do watch the NFL cause well its football.. But my heart is definitely in the CFL all the way. I do enjoy the NFL not the game but just watching the players they make some phenomenal plays them boys they definitely are the best at what they do. But over all I think our game is way better just a more open happening game.. As for teams I don't really have one I like a couple if I had to pick I would go with the Steelers,, I like their style..

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2011, 05:15:17 PM »
well having incredible players like troy polamalu and big ben i can completely understand why their favorite and in a personal opinion they should have won the superbowl. and when it comes too open happining games check out this sack haha



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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2011, 09:39:46 PM »
I am a big Patriots fan!  Billicheck is an amazing coach.  They sucked in the playoffs this year but will be back this year.  Brady made a bad pass and lost hid confidence. 

Sorry but I find the CFL a little painful to watch,  the talent is just heads and tails better in the NFL.

And the Packers killed the Steelers.   ;D

Sure hope there is a season!

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2011, 12:36:46 AM »
BAHH! lol i hate the patriots ! almost as much as dem colts and greenbay haha i agree the talent levels are insanely diffrent thats why im always getting tick when calvillo talks about himself as if he is an nfl player because in all honesty if he came to the nfl he'd simply be the next carson palmer. a draft bust! your going to notice with me i tend to rant on when it comes to teams i dislike and of coarse the best team in the world eagles! :P and vikings close second 

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2011, 08:30:28 AM »
I am a big Patriots fan!  Billicheck is an amazing coach.  They sucked in the playoffs this year but will be back this year.  Brady made a bad pass and lost hid confidence. 

Sorry but I find the CFL a little painful to watch,  the talent is just heads and tails better in the NFL.

And the Packers killed the Steelers.   ;D

Sure hope there is a season!

Most of the NFL players are definitely in a higher caliber but you have to keep one thing in mind. The guys playing in the CFL are in there because they love the game pure and simple. They sure as heck aren't in it for the money. Oh a few of them make a living at it but for the most part they need other jobs to make it. They are playing on pure heart. The NFL like the NHL is loaded with nothing but a bunch of over paid spoiled rotten brats. For me thats what wrecks the game and just plain and simple takes away from the game. As far as talent wise,, there are many many a CFL and Canadian player that could of cut it and done well in the NFL but for reasons unknown to anyone they never got the chance. There are many a receiver and lineman or running back from Canada that would of played alongside quite of few NFL players but never got the chance. There are a lot of star college players that never made the NFL that don't make the CFL either. People think just because they don't make the NFL they automatically make the CFL,,, not so. It takes a certain type of player to play our game its not for everyone.

Saying that you don't watch the CFL because of the talent is like saying you can't watch a Junior hockey game because everyone on the ice isn't the best of the best.. Its the love of the game that makes a fan.. I love watching Highschool ball as much as any CFL or NFL game,, why cause its the game...




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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2011, 09:08:33 AM »
Most of the NFL players are definitely in a higher caliber but you have to keep one thing in mind. The guys playing in the CFL are in there because they love the game pure and simple. They sure as heck aren't in it for the money. Oh a few of them make a living at it but for the most part they need other jobs to make it. They are playing on pure heart. The NFL like the NHL is loaded with nothing but a bunch of over paid spoiled rotten brats. For me thats what wrecks the game and just plain and simple takes away from the game. As far as talent wise,, there are many many a CFL and Canadian player that could of cut it and done well in the NFL but for reasons unknown to anyone they never got the chance. There are many a receiver and lineman or running back from Canada that would of played alongside quite of few NFL players but never got the chance. There are a lot of star college players that never made the NFL that don't make the CFL either. People think just because they don't make the NFL they automatically make the CFL,,, not so. It takes a certain type of player to play our game its not for everyone.

Saying that you don't watch the CFL because of the talent is like saying you can't watch a Junior hockey game because everyone on the ice isn't the best of the best.. Its the love of the game that makes a fan.. I love watching Highschool ball as much as any CFL or NFL game,, why cause its the game...

Agree with the heart of the players in the CFL; it definitely isnt for the money.  When it comes to the attitude of the overpaid players at the top levels of any sport, I agree fully.  I choose to ignore it with all the sports otherwise it takes something away from the game for me.  I watch the games for the enjoyment and to see the phenomenal talent they have.  They are all a bunch of overpaid ego-maniacs (from golf to football and all sports in between).

As for the CFL, perhaps I should have elaborated more.  Its the rules of the game that make me not like the league.  I just can't accept the single points that are handed out for misses.  Mentally it doesn't work for me.  To see a team get a single point for missing a field goal or kicking a punt through the end zone is a joke.  If the league wants the receiving team to run the ball out then give it to them on their own 10 yard line but there definitely should not be any points on the board.  Sometimes the receiving team doesnt get the oppurtunity to run it out and the point is still awarded (kicked through the end zone).  That point alone kills the game for me.  sorry man, mentally its something I cant overcome.

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2011, 09:44:28 AM »
yah I can see yoor point weste.. There are certain small things that get me in either game but at least we agree that football played on either side of the border is a great game..

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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2011, 09:54:54 AM »
yah I can see yoor point weste.. There are certain small things that get me in either game but at least we agree that football played on either side of the border is a great game..

Absolutely!  Love the game.

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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2011, 04:22:20 PM »
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Most of the NFL players are definitely in a higher caliber but you have to keep one thing in mind. The guys playing in the CFL are in there because they love the game pure and simple. They sure as heck aren't in it for the money. Oh a few of them make a living at it but for the most part they need other jobs to make it. They are playing on pure heart. The NFL like the NHL is loaded with nothing but a bunch of over paid spoiled rotten brats. For me thats what wrecks the game and just plain and simple takes away from the game. As far as talent wise,, there are many many a CFL and Canadian player that could of cut it and done well in the NFL but for reasons unknown to anyone they never got the chance. There are many a receiver and lineman or running back from Canada that would of played alongside quite of few NFL players but never got the chance. There are a lot of star college players that never made the NFL that don't make the CFL either. People think just because they don't make the NFL they automatically make the CFL,,, not so. It takes a certain type of player to play our game its not for everyone.

Saying that you don't watch the CFL because of the talent is like saying you can't watch a Junior hockey game because everyone on the ice isn't the best of the best.. Its the love of the game that makes a fan.. I love watching Highschool ball as much as any CFL or NFL game,, why cause its the game...




main reason why you dont see alot of canadian football players in the nfl is the simple fact of we as canadian football player grew up with a larger feild, larger ball, less downs and more rules they would sooner look at a ncaa player whose grown up playing with the same ball size feild size and rules as the nfl truely follows thats the main reason there. other than that you can see alot of candian players that do go down as free agents that are more less handed up to the nfl because of their substantial skill levels such as warren moon and an argo and a roughrider that left this year to go to the bears canadian players are known to go to the nfl its just much more rare than an ncaa draft option

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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2011, 04:37:00 PM »
Allthough there have been a few Canadian boys head south and do well the numbers are low..

P.S. Warren Moon is not a Canadian he is an american that came up to Canada to play for a few years then was taken up by the NFL and yes did very well at both games..

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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2011, 05:26:07 PM »
I think you also have to take into account the huge over balanced oppurtunities for american kids to actually play the game. Ignore the few Canadian kids that go to the states to play college how many elite teams are there in Canada at the college level? I'm thinking 20 University teams. I'm sure there are that many in Montana and Idaho alone. It would be a similiar circumstance to Canadian Junior hockey. That said in the last 10 years or so there have been a few Canadian born players in the NFL I think there was about a dozen Canadians in the league last year Suishan, Kaczur, Burlason, Meyer and now Getzlaf as well. The only real blemish was Vander(I have my foot stuck in my mouth)jackt.

I'm pretty sure the talent level is better in the NFL but I think there is more  talent here that could play in the NFL than we realize. Ricky Williams sure didn't set the CFL on fire (bad attempt at a pun).

By the way I'm a closet Riders fan (please no one tell Waxy) and Packers fan forever with a soft spot for the Bills and just a huge fan of the old school University of Miami Hurricanes Irvine, Jimmie Jones, Benard Clark, Testeverde. these guys were nuts. 202 yards of penalties in the first half of the cotton bowl and still beat the longhorns 46-10 or something ridiculous like that. There will never be another team like that.
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2011, 12:32:59 AM »
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P.S. Warren Moon is not a Canadian he is an american that came up to Canada to play for a few years then was taken up by the NFL and yes did very well at both games..

i knew that ;)

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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 08:59:59 AM »
Sounds like negotiations are going well and there will be an NFL season this year!!

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 09:47:50 AM »
As for the CFL, perhaps I should have elaborated more.  Its the rules of the game that make me not like the league.  I just can't accept the single points that are handed out for misses.  Mentally it doesn't work for me.  To see a team get a single point for missing a field goal or kicking a punt through the end zone is a joke.  If the league wants the receiving team to run the ball out then give it to them on their own 10 yard line but there definitely should not be any points on the board.  Sometimes the receiving team doesnt get the oppurtunity to run it out and the point is still awarded (kicked through the end zone).  That point alone kills the game for me.  sorry man, mentally its something I cant overcome.

Amen Weste.  I HATE the "rouge", it's the most retarded rule in sports.  Rewarding failure is just wrong, plain and simple.  I understand that people like the excitement of the return on missed field goals, but the NFL has it right on this one, the opposing team gets the ball from the line of scrimmage on a miss.  It leaves the strategy in place, and punishes failure, especially on long tries.

A point for punting the ball through the endzone is just ridiculous.  The punting team should be penalized and the ball moved way out to the 35 or something, not given a point.  I'm torn on the "no yards" rules for punts in the CFL too.  It does add more excitement than the fair catch, but something about it just isn't quite right either.

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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 10:01:54 AM »
I'm pretty sure the talent level is better in the NFL but I think there is more  talent here that could play in the NFL than we realize. Ricky Williams sure didn't set the CFL on fire (bad attempt at a pun).

I'm not sure I agree on more CFL talent being capable of playing in the NFL.  The fact of the matter is that only our "elite" players go to the NFL, and with the exception of Cameron Wake, I can't think of any that made an impact in the NFL.  They generally take on backup or special teams roles, they simply aren't at the level of the other players on the roster.  Andy Fantuz is a great receiver for the CFL game, and the Riders miss him dearly, but I doubt he'll make the opening day roster of the Bears, and even if he does, it'll be as a backup receiver whose only role would be to play some special teams and catch the odd pass over the middle if someone gets hurt.  Great hands but he's too slow and he's playing against elite defensive backs down there.

That said, it doesn't even necessarily come down to each individual's skills, it comes down to the differences in the games themselves.

I don't think Ricky Williams was really on his game at the time, and then he lost the year to injury, but the CFL game is very different when it comes to the running game, the talent doesn't always translate from one league to the other.  Ricky at that point was a bruising back that hammered out yards 3-5 at a time and broke the odd longer run.  He didn't have the blazing speed anymore, and he's terrible as a receiver out of the backfield, which are two critical things for a CFL running back.

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By the way I'm a closet Riders fan (please no one tell Waxy) and Packers fan forever with a soft spot for the Bills and just a huge fan of the old school University of Miami Hurricanes Irvine, Jimmie Jones, Benard Clark, Testeverde. these guys were nuts. 202 yards of penalties in the first half of the cotton bowl and still beat the longhorns 46-10 or something ridiculous like that. There will never be another team like that.

AHAH!

Love 'em or hate 'em, those teams from "The U" were pretty amazing...

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