calgary stampede wreck

[wildmeat]

well i was listening to the radio today at work and listened to a few of the callers that called in about the wreck at the calgary stampede... i dont think they like me much after that and i prolly sounded like a bitch... i dont give a ****.. i told them first of all the guy whos team had a wreck was my cousin... then i said second of all thank god hes ok... then i said for all the city folk and complete ignorant assholes that are calling in them horses are 120% loved and cared for... even more so than their own children in some cases... it takes alot of time and work and effort and love and care to build and raise a team of horses that will do what them horses do... when your not working your with your horses... when your not sleeping your with your horses... when your not eating your with your horses... come on people grab a brain here.... then i was cut off... im glad your ok chad and i hope you keep on doing what you love to do!!!!


sorry guys had to get that off my chest... i grew up watching my cousin chad and his horses racing at every event he could make it too... it just erks me to no end some of the comments being made

[Tuc]

Hey Wildmeat, I don't think they are complaining about the way the horses are raised and treated. I agree with you that most of those horses are better looked after than some kids. What they are complaining about is the death of these horses which comes with every CS. It wouldn't be Stampede without the chucks and all the other events that go along with it but every year you can almost guarantee horses are going to die..... How many is the #1 question.

I think that's the part of it that noone likes. Should they stop the chucks or sacrifice 3 or 4 horses every year? Easy one! We all know what the answer is here and I think the anti's can protest untill they are black and blue in the face. When you have profits made up in the millions of dollars, nothing will change, a few horses die, the organizers get a little richer.

Now, what if the riders were dying at the same rate of the horses every year?

[JIMMY 808]

Adding human emotions to animals is never a good comparison.

[sheepguide]

People act like there is a huge percentage of horses hurt at the stampede. But in fact the numbers are low.
A person I know put some numbers together that put things more into perspective. They say 50 Chuckwagon horse deaths over the past 26 years at the Calgary Stampede! Do you know how many horses race in the Rangeland Derby each night @ the Stampede? 288 per night, 2880 per Stampede, 74,880 for 26 years. So out of 74,880 horse trips around the track only 50 have passed awayover 26 years. Seems to me to be a pretty minor glitch that some are totally blowing out of proportion. Maybe before people talk on thse such subjects they should get some more knowledge on the subjects.
These guys want to ban wagons and rodeo sports because a few animals get hurt or killed but dont see that if they are successful they will be condmning the majority of these animals to slaughter! So instead of a few per year we will have thousands killed because they are of no more use and people will no longer be able to afford to keep them.
To many people living in a fantasy world out there because they have no grasp on reality!! 
SG

[wildmeat]

People act like there is a huge percentage of horses hurt at the stampede. But in fact the numbers are low.
A person I know put some numbers together that put things more into perspective. They say 50 Chuckwagon horse deaths over the past 26 years at the Calgary Stampede! Do you know how many horses race in the Rangeland Derby each night @ the Stampede? 288 per night, 2880 per Stampede, 74,880 for 26 years. So out of 74,880 horse trips around the track only 50 have passed awayover 26 years. Seems to me to be a pretty minor glitch that some are totally blowing out of proportion. Maybe before people talk on thse such subjects they should get some more knowledge on the subjects.
These guys want to ban wagons and rodeo sports because a few animals get hurt or killed but dont see that if they are successful they will be condmning the majority of these animals to slaughter! So instead of a few per year we will have thousands killed because they are of no more use and people will no longer be able to afford to keep them.
To many people living in a fantasy world out there because they have no grasp on reality!! 
SG

well said my freind!!!  i stole this and put it on my facebook for my family to see... put them at ease a bit

[sheepguide]

Thanks guys. But just like to get facts out there. I grew up around chuck wagon racing and loved being around My cousin Jim Listers wagon and outriding horses when he ran with Reg Johnstone. Us kids used to ride outriding horses all around the wagon barns. They were just like Chad stated part of their family. I remember my first memories of wagons and wagon horses sitting in the back of Reg Johnstons wagon as a young kid as he took a box full of us youngsters around the barrels at High River. As well the late Edwin Alstott was my neighbor and family friend and his wagon horses were  treated like royalty and it really burns me when people talk they way they have about cruelty and such! Hope that the people that are against these sports actually see the truth and facts one day!!!

[walleyes]

Adding human emotions to animals is never a good comparison.

Boy ain't this the truth.. This can be said for a good many things in todays society,, many people and their pets included. One thing I have never had a problem with is distinguishing humans and animals and keeping it as such.

Now on the topic, sheep and wild summed it up well.

[Tuc]

Walleyes, I agree and disagree.

If you have an animal living a high risk life style like these horses are, I wouldn't add to much human emotion to their life other than look after them well. Police dogs would be another example.
WTS, I think highly of my dogs and would be very upset if I lost one. I guess there's lots of emotion there but then again, a dog is a man's best friend. Mine have proved that over and over for me. OMO!

[walleyes]

Make no mistake Tuc, I fully understand, well to a point. I have had dogs over the years that have meant a lot to me as well and curently do now but with that said when it was time I never lost a minutes sleep when it was time to put them down, never had to hire anybody or didn't cost me more than 2 long rifle 22 shells either.

[Tuc]

but with that said when it was time I never lost a minutes sleep when it was time to put them down, never had to hire anybody or didn't cost me more than 2 long rifle 22 shells either.

I here you there.

It's funny how we get a little softer with age. Or I have anyhow. Back home I kept rabbit dogs (beagles) all my life. I bred them to sell and always had a pair for my own hunting stock. Rabbit hunting with dogs is a big sport in N.S. and I had a few friends that was big into also. We all use to hunt together so we had this thing going....when one of my dogs got sick or too old to hunt my buddy Eddie would take him out in the back forty with the .22 and lights out. I would do the same for him with his dogs. It was never a problem.
A couple of years back I had to put down my G.S. dog of 10 years because of health reasons. I thought about the old way but couldn't do it. I had to take him to the vet. It was one of the hardest things I ever had to do. Twenty years ago I would have still thought alot of my dog but done it the old way.

Ya, guess I'm getting soft in my older years!

[M.O.A]

these are the same people that bash us for hunting witch they know nothing about , bitch about the environment well driving their SUV ,wine about the government and don't vote ,let their dogs and cats run wild in the streets and get run over or attacked by other animals or have to eat garbage to survive and then bitch about the Calgary stampede , surprise surprise