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BruceW

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GUNTER: Rural communities under the gun
« on: March 19, 2018, 07:59:08 AM »
The federal Liberals’ upcoming gun control legislation and the recent spike in rural crime are closely related.

No, I don’t mean that if the Libs can just do something about getting guns under control, they will reduce the rural crime rate, which has risen by more than 20% in many rural parts of the country over the past five years.

Nope. From that aspect, past Liberal gun control measures have actually made rural crime worse.

Past gun controls — such as the firearms registry — have given criminals the impression there are fewer law-abiding citizens with guns out. And that has caused crime to rise because the bad guys have more confidence they will not meet armed civilians while out burglarizing innocent Canadians.

Whatever new controls the Trudeau government brings in, perhaps as early as this spring, are most likely only going to make rural crime worse.

Reports coming out of the Liberal caucus suggest the government wants to make it easier to ban all types of firearms and not pay compensation to owners who are forced to give them up. According to caucus sources, handguns (which are already severely controlled in Canada) and semi-automatic rifles will be particularly easy for cabinet, the RCMP or bureaucrats to ban without having to get permission from Parliament first.

The only people who will comply with such surrender and seizure orders will be law-abiding citizens. Criminals will not hesitate to ignore the new controls. (The willingness to disobey laws is how they got to be criminals in the first place.)

No criminal — rural or urban — is going to say: “I may be prepared to rob, beat and murder you, but if Justin Trudeau says I should turn in my guns, I’ll do it!”

So the bad guys will keep their guns and more of the good guys will lose theirs, which means the firearms imbalance will only worsen and rural crime will rise as a result.

But that’s not the only way in which impending gun controls and rural crime are related. Both are also products of the same mentality.

Rural property owners who believe they must use force to defend themselves, their families or their property are frequently forced to defend their actions in court. More often than not, they are charged, occasionally even with more serious crimes than their alleged attackers.

Alleged criminals are often treated by police, prosecutors, judges and politicians with more respect and compassion than self-defending landowners. (And don’t think criminals haven’t sensed that, too, and increased their criminal activities as a result.)

The other connection is that the mentality of our criminal justice system and the false hope that controls on law-abiding gun ownership will reduce crime, come from the same place: A misbelief that the authorities — the government — and not the people, are the masters in a democracy.

I have written before that I will never fully trust a government that doesn’t trust me to own a gun – or a whole bunch of guns, if I choose.

I don’t own guns. Never have. I’ve never even fired a gun.

Farmers and ranchers own guns to control vermin, such as coyotes. Hunters own them as instruments of recreation; collectors as sources of fascination and history.

None of these uses of firearms as “tools” interests me in the least.

But you can tell a lot about individual freedom in a country or society by how a government treats private firearms ownership.

And, increasingly, I think you can tell a lot about the idea of individual sovereignty by how a government respects the right to self-defence, even of property.

http://winnipegsun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-rural-communities-under-the-gun/wcm/c007acd3-f834-449a-a0bc-f6b3a012f569

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Re: GUNTER: Rural communities under the gun
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 08:57:38 AM »
Socilaist governments will never stop until they remove guns from their citizens, they can not have complete control over the population when it's armed.
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Re: GUNTER: Rural communities under the gun
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2018, 01:06:03 PM »

 What walleyes said ....if ever a country was right for civil strife ,
  It's this one ......Time for US style militias to organize!
   
   Or at the very least get those friggin liberals out of power !
 
    Keep your powder dry 
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 Are reduced to the mundane existence
 of normal men , they do not fare well.
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Re: GUNTER: Rural communities under the gun
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2018, 02:38:11 PM »
The retarded Liberals will never touch my guns period, end of story.  It's that simple.
Trudeau and Goodale can whine and cry all they like and make whatever laws they like.  They are vermin as far as I am concerned.
I will be keeping all of my guns.

With our existing laws, we watch poor Gerald Stanley in court today fighting improper firearm storage charges.  Those Red Pheasant criminal thieves had a loaded .22 though and no firearms charges for them, not to mention they were banned from possessing guns and they were drunk and high and committing a robbery.
Liberals, go f@ck yourselves!
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Re: GUNTER: Rural communities under the gun
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2018, 07:09:06 PM »
When Liberals go full retard with dumb laws, civil disobedience is the only option.
They are calling for gun vendors to keep records and personal info.
I bet they go after all of the semi-autos too.

I asked my dumb ass MP's office today where my personal info is now from my PAL and my last gun purchase at the now defunct Wholesale Sports.  Where is that logbook?
The answer was silence and a dumb look.  For all I know they sold the records for $10K to the local HA so they can rob me.  Could be, why not, nothing preventing it.
This is why I say never will I obey any of this Liberal government's gun laws.
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Re: GUNTER: Rural communities under the gun
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2018, 06:48:47 PM »
Just another back door gun registry.

Apparently from the CGN (not a reliable source of information), all records of sales are to be electronically filed at the shop.

I am sure the data will later then be uploaded to some RCMP data base.  This will create problems....lots of problems.

I await the auditor general to see how accurate, complete, reliable and valid this information will be.

What concerns me is how the RCMP will be able to ban your gun and take it away from you willy nilly.

Don't you feel like a bullied victim?  Does Justin Care?  That should be a question to the people in rural and semi rural ridings in eastern canada.




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Re: GUNTER: Rural communities under the gun
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 06:58:37 PM »
Just another back door gun registry.

Apparently from the CGN (not a reliable source of information), all records of sales are to be electronically filed at the shop.

I am sure the data will later then be uploaded to some RCMP data base.  This will create problems....lots of problems.

I await the auditor general to see how accurate, complete, reliable and valid this information will be.

What concerns me is how the RCMP will be able to ban your gun and take it away from you willy nilly.

Don't you feel like a bullied victim?  Does Justin Care?  That should be a question to the people in rural and semi rural ridings in eastern canada.

Glad I sold all my guns to Mike from Canmore. ;)

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Re: GUNTER: Rural communities under the gun
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 07:21:01 PM »
Ya, my guns are all gone too, just for the record.
Crazy series of bad luck for me:

  • Rifle lost in a river crossing.
  • Shotgun went through the combine, had it laying on a swath.
  • .22 sucked up by a tornado when gopher hunting.
  • Rifle #2 fell down a crevasse while goat hunting.

Yup, terrible luck,  sorry Mr. Trudeau and Mr. RCMP.  I do not own any guns anymore.
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