Heads up, rural break in's not just in "that" part of SK

[BruceW]

Just found out today a yard in SE AB got hit, owner awoke to breaking glass on his front door, thieves had parked at a distance, used his atv(not sure what, was told by mother) to ferry tools etc out to their vehicle from his yard.  My understanding is when he hit the lights they fled.

This yard is on a paved secondary road that's not well travelled, especially at night, although it's better part of an hour to medhat(closest city).

Just a heads up as it's likely not that isolated of an event.  Use to be just gas thieves.  Apparently that's changed.

[Walleyes]

It's all over the place BruceW it's a daily occurrence around our parts. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when and what.

[greylynx]

Walleyes is right.   

Crime is rampant in rural Alberta.

Rural residents need help.  We have a really serious crime problem in rural Alberta, and no one gives a damn except when it comes time to vote and pay our taxes.

And shooting someone is no answer.

[Lance Skene]

That sort of crap has been out of control for two or three years already... Im 30 minutes east of Calgary and theres a truck stolen within 15 minutes of my place everyday, there does seem to be more cops on the roads but it doesnt seem to make much differance... theres more laws protecting the thief than the property owners, cameras dont stop them, guard dogs are stolen... WTF can ya do?

[Hammer spur]

One of my buddy's got a rottie and put a end to issues on his acreage.
I suppose if you get someone willing to shoot your dog your hooped.
I don't know if that rottie was the exception but he was a master of protecting that place.If someone breached the property on foot he would not make a sound until he was right behind them then if they tried moving blood was drawn with a nip or two.
Absolutely amazing dog,was a big puppy if he knew you.
Would not threaten children and the Jehovah's put that to the test when he was freaking out at the car and they  unbelievably sent the kids out to come to his door.
Unfortunately he is not around anymore.

[guido]

If laws were meant to protect the victim instead of the perp, there would be a lot less crime.

[Walleyes]

It's organized gangs this day and age. They move from area to area in groups. They get the people that are drug dependant to work for them, give them enough cash to keep them high and fed and they keep them in goods.
 The crime rate seems higher and is somewhat around places with high native populations do to the increase in native gangs in Sask and Alberta. Do some research on the native gangs on our provinces it's quite alarming. They are recruiting these young people into their organizations giving them a purpose and some feeling of usefulness and belonging. It's not a good situation at all.

You could follow most of these groups back up to but a couple key organizations like the Hells Angels, and Asian gangs that are fueling the smaller gangs.

Just remember people, for every thief there is someone that has to buy those stolen goods and these people are the same ones that complain the most. I know more than one person that is always more than happy to get " that awesome deal " knowing damn well what they are buying is bad goods but they can't resist. Yet when it happens to them or a family member they cry foul and kill !!

Its far more complex than just bad kids or towns, it's an epidemic of crime and our jails are full now, a lost gerneration and generations raised by Hollywood and big dreams of easy money. Program after program glorifying the criminal and the criminal life. Over the last 15 years the most popular programs have been those of the criminal. Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad, Sapranos to name a few, the most popular shows of our time all glorifying the criminal life to a generation of kids watching from the sidelines while their parents watched in admiration. Yup it's  far more complex than just the Indian on the corner as some say.

In my words WE'RE F#CKED BOYS !!

[AxeMan]

Walleyes, couldn't have described the problem better.  Exactly what is happening!
We are basically, f#cked though, because we have an apologist moron running this country and many ignorant dimwits willing to follow him.
It will get worse yet.

[Lance Skene]

http://www.660news.com/2018/02/25/rural-homeowner-custody-shots-fired/

[BruceW]

http://www.660news.com/2018/02/25/rural-homeowner-custody-shots-fired/

Can't help but wonder if someone bought a ditcher, put impassable earthworks around their yard and a heavy locked gate would the thieves be charged for attempting to breach it, or the property owner for putting in the ditch?

Satisfying their left wing masters pc agenda is going to alienate all the taxpayers. 
"Don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to mind.

[greylynx]

I have seen deep ditches around some pastures.

One popular item that is getting stolen are farmer's gates and rural church and cemetery gates complete with the locks on.

The brass bell from the church just down the road from my place was also stolen.

[AxeMan]

Gotta love the CBC....NOT.
Here is their take on that Okotoks theif getting shot.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/okotoks-shooting-homeowner-arrested-1.4552840
CBC news Davis Dormer:
"Police were called to the property near Okotoks, Alta., about 5 a.m. Saturday when a number of shots were fired after the homeowner saw someone rummaging through his vehicles
Two people fled the scene but one suspect suffering an arm injury was located soon after."

I guess that is the new way of describing that a thief is robbing stuff from your vehicle.  Wouldn't want to offend him.....lol.
Just more of the decline in Canada due to our weak property laws.

[AxeMan]

Interesting perspective from an experienced Canadian defense lawyer on protecting your property.
It is starkly different from the advice many Cops are eagerly handing out these days.

https://omny.fm/shows/danielle-smith/breakenridge-gun-laws?t=14m7s

[Norwest Alta]

I'm new here fellas but if you have any thing to due with aof you got a good idea what I'm about.

This rural crime thing has to be sorted out. In my immediate area things are pretty quite crime wise but there was a helluva problem around Valhalla. The typical repeat offenders type of stuff. Guys in and out of jail with little to no repercussions. At The end of the day it is the working man that ultimately pays. I don't know what kind of a mindset a person needs to be sympathetic towards the thief but sure seems like there's lots out there with the argument that material things aren't worth some ones life. I disagree. I work pretty hard put in some long hours. For example Feb was a  270 hr month with 4 days off included. It seems like I spend a lifetime working to buy stuff that I want. So is my stuff work a life?  In my mind I spend a life of long hours and hard work so I suppose it is but really it is not for me to decide. Ultimately it is the person that wants to take it from me to decide if my stuff is worth a life.