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Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« on: January 25, 2014, 12:20:38 PM »
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OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada has refused to hear an appeal involving Metis hunting and fishing rights in Alberta.

The Metis Nation of Alberta had filed arguments on behalf of hunter Garry Hirsekorn that challenged a lower court ruling that restricted hunting rights to around northern Metis settlements.

The arguments focused on a Supreme Court ruling 10 years ago that granted Ontario Metis hunting rights.

Hirsekorn was convicted in 2010 of hunting out of season after he shot a mule deer near the Cypress Hills in southeastern Alberta.

The Alberta Court of Appeal upheld the conviction, saying there wasn't enough proof that Metis had a historic presence in southern Alberta that granted them a right to hunt for food.

The Metis Nation argued that buffalo hunters were nomads who rarely, or never, returned to established communities.

The organization had been using the Hirsekorn case to press Alberta to recognize Metis hunting rights across the province.

Hirsekorn's lawyers had argued that the courts should expand the definition of the Supreme Court's Powley test case, which established the benchmark for Metis rights.

The Powley ruling requires that Metis who claim constitutional aboriginal hunting rights need to prove there were established communities in an area before the Metis came under the effective control of European laws and customs.

Lower-court judges concluded that Hirsekorn's lawyers failed to prove that the Metis had a significant long-standing historic presence in the Cypress Hills where he shot the deer. 

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2014, 01:20:06 PM »
Your title describes the judgement well.

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2014, 02:59:09 PM »
We don't win to many of these ones boys..

A good day for wildlife for sure..

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 03:29:49 PM »
Walleyes, I'm sure you remember back in the Pearl Callahasen (IMHA) days. I for one circulated a petition at the Sportsman shows in Calgary.  Rob M. got me free admission, through AO booth, but the time was mine and I didn't mind in the least to fight for what I believed in and for what was right.

This decision is also right, enough is enough!

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 05:20:07 PM »
Yes,, those were some dark days.. To be honest with you all for myself it was a very difficult time. I live in communities with very heavy native and métis populations and consider many many of them close friends and I have a number of métis family members through marriage. For many of us it caused an awful lot of resentment and grief to an otherwise peaceful area. It was one of the reasons behind me leaving the north for a while,, I was just disgusted with the whole situation and held all of them responsible.. Now I know this wasn't right, and I have come to deal with it but at the time it was very hard for me. I had a real disdain for the whole situation. As I overcame my resentment I was able to come back home to the north and enjoy this wonderful place again thanks in no little part to all of you that fought to get some order to the chaos that was taking place.

We have come a long ways In this fight and as far as I am concerned it's not over yet,, not until we have equality for all people..

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 09:05:32 PM »
In the same boat Terry. Have métis family members who put in for draws, buys tags, etc, have others that suddenly felt very special, entitled, and no qualms bragging about it. Created some resentment to the point of not hunting with some of them anymore.

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 09:49:37 PM »
Walleyes, I'm sure you remember back in the Pearl Callahasen (IMHA) days. I for one circulated a petition at the Sportsman shows in Calgary.  Rob M. got me free admission, through AO booth, but the time was mine and I didn't mind in the least to fight for what I believed in and for what was right.

This decision is also right, enough is enough!

I seem to recall there was another "incident" @ the AO booth.

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 10:58:34 PM »
I seem to recall there was another "incident" @ the AO booth.

This sounds intriguing ??

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2014, 08:10:16 AM »
Guido, you seem to recall wrong. Can't you stay on subject or are you here only to stir up shit.

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Re: Maybe a loss for them but a win for better game management
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2014, 05:42:31 PM »
not worth my time.
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