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Walleyes
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Sask Shooting.
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August 19, 2016, 09:46:22 PM »
We have to look at this situation.
First off I am all for being able to protect your personal belongings and your personal self but to what end. Yes if someone has entered your home and is legitimately threatening you or family I am all for using what ever force necessary to protect yourself or family. But killing someone over theft or trespassing in my view is too far. No possession is worth a persons life. With that said there is probably more to this story than what is being let out now, hopefully the truth will come out. My experience with these situations and these people is they generally are not the innocent victims their family or friends want them to be perceived as. But who knows in this situation it could all be a situation blown right out of hand.
What I am sick of is this constant rhetoric by the natives in this country of playing the victim all the time. I am tired of the racist card being played all the time. What they do not understand is it's not racism that is alive in this country it's resentment, and there is a difference. It's only going to get worse and these people are bringing this on themselves. You can't open a paper or watch the news these days with out one of these bands opposing something, wanting more for doing nothing, crying mistreatment at every turn it gets sickening. What amazes me is the fact the blacks in the US and many countries fought and struggled against segregation and died fighting it and our natives are fighting for it. They want their own schools, their own government, their own towns. They spend their entire life on the reserve and when they desire to leave they expect the world to accept them and respect them, for what, who are we respecting we don't know you or who you are. You chose to live a life of exulsion and when you decide to join society you expect open arms. They hold our nation for ransom yet expect to be treated with respect. Sorry it doesn't work that way.
This whole business is going to come to a head in the next few years, people are going to have enough and situations like this prove this, people are tired of it and will take the law into their own hands. There will be a civil war over this and it won't be started by the natives.
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AxeMan
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August 20, 2016, 09:10:41 AM »
Yup, lots of resentment alright. In most cases in my experience, very well deserved resentment. People, especially rural people, are sick of being robbed of their hard earned belongings. Securing and locking belongings is challenging in a rural environment. Losing your possessions is heart breaking, and the usual refusal by the RCMP to investigate a nearby reserve compounds that feeling. Then in the end you either accept your loss or get bent over by your insurance company with deductibles and increased premiums. That feeling drives some people to drastic measures.
I was entrenched with my "resentment" when I was quite young. My grandpa had homesteaded in the 30's near Beaver Lake next to the reserve and kept the 2 quarters of land even after he farmed for the rest of his life near Camrose. When Grandpa retired, he put a house trailer on the old homestead land and fished and hunted and tried to enjoy retirement in the north country. I spent lots of time with him and Grandma up at Beaver Lake. Being next to the reserve was brutal though. Constant theft and vandalism to the point it wasn't worth keeping anything of value there on those bush quarters a ways off the main road. Every time we came up, it was something. Bullet holes in the trailer, smashed door, shit on the floor, stolen equipment, etc. Eventually, the family realized that the property wasn't worth keeping for recreation when no one was there permanently. He sold the quarters to Walleye's uncle and he pastured some cattle there after that. Not sure what became of the quarters now.
Grandpa was still friends with some of the reserve elders I remember as a kid and he could even speak a bit of Cree with them. He had hired and worked with a few of them in the 30's when times were really tough. The changes on that reserve in a few generations made it intolerable to live beside. One time in the middle of the night when I was about 10 years old and sleeping in the trailer, a car load of young "braves" wheeled into the property after smashing the gate. I remember my Grandma telling me to hide under the bed and Grandpa had the 30-30 in his hands and was going out the door of trailer. I can fully understand how incidents like the one in the news in Saskatchewan happen! I also remember the old RCMP constable hanging his head while telling Grandpa there was nothing he could do and his hands were tied.
I would love to still have that property in the family as we are hunting and fishing family. It would have also been great to honor Grandpa's homestead long into the future. This is my resentment to that reserve. I don't have the racism, because the old Cree elders that Grandpa showed me when I was young I still think to this day were really great people.
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August 21, 2016, 02:47:26 PM »
I am in total agreement with the first 2 posters . I believe that the Indian
Issue is the hill the battle to dismantle the Federal Govt in this country
will be fought on . The big picture starts with the Brits making deals
With the natives that the so called govt of the day had neither the ability
Or the willingness to hold up their end on . Three hundred or so years
Of bad , inept policies by the eastern robber barons have brought us
the citizens of western Canada to a point of seething desperation .
Those of us who have been watching this constant pandering policy
Of appeasement by the Feds , since the early 50 s ,do believe this
will not end well , plus there are now large populations of Canadians
Like the Sikhs who having thrown off the yoke of British oppression
In their native country, feel no obligation to kiss ass to the aboriginals . Those of us who don't buy the First Nations BS ( more like
Immigrants from SE Asia ) have little time for the yapping no more movement . As we don't have a Castle Law like
our US brothers , we have to tow the current line , but when full
Disclosure is out ,I hope the CFA backs the charged with all their
resources. I believe the current situation will lead to the collapse
Of the Dominion, so be it . I don't want my grand kids to inherit
this crap .
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unclebuck
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August 21, 2016, 04:33:16 PM »
Axe, things have not changed, only now you see the "boys" on Main St. in town dealing. There are a few farmer neighbours of the "rez" who don't put up with bs thefts. Enuf said!!
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BruceW
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August 23, 2016, 06:46:05 AM »
For me the most disturbing thing about this story is the manipulation of the media. At first it was four in the car and the others were being investigated for an additional robbery the previous day (if I remember correctly).
That story wasn't up long, then the communist broadcasting corp started the spin, having relatives on claiming innocence and just wanting assistance when the horrible farmer opened up for no reason whatsoever, nothing about the attempted robbery nor the investigation of the other parties present. Love how even now the np has a pic of the deceased from about 10 yrs ago instead of the more current one's with gang paraphanalia, etc.
We no longer have a trustworthy news source in Canada that I know of; or pretty much anywhere for that matter.
Britain votes to leave the rapidly disintigrating eu and the news purports GB will suffer; Daily riots in the streets of Germany and the news claims the welcomed invading army is a wonderful thing. Strangely almost nothing about the failed socialist poster child Venezuela, and not one peep about the rapidly approaching date of required eu member bailouts that aren't going to happen, and of course nothing about the rapidly escalating violence across europe.
Make the mistake of talking to a left winger and they'll use Sweden as a shining example of socialism. Done any research on sweden lately? We won't even begin to get into clinton.
With 2.0 it's nonstop articles of how swell he looks, yet when anything happens that Demands a public response from even a marginally capable leader there's not a peep, and more disturbingly not one single, "news source" in the country asks why.
Not one single news source in the country mentioned that a federal investigation into missing/murdered, "aboriginal" women had already been done a couple yrs ago............guess the media didn't like the results of that one.
It's to the point if a story interests us we must do our own research, as the media is nothing but a left wing propaganda machine now and can simply not be trusted. Methinks the sheep are about to be fleeced.
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