Sun News Network.

[Walleyes]

Not sure how many people got their news from the Sun News Network but that's pretty much where I got my info from, especially the web site. It's where I spent my morning coffe reading and getting my news. But they have closed the doors. Apparently they have been losing money for quite some time and couldn't find a buyer so they shut down. The web site and the network channel.

This realy sucks, now it's nothing but the Liberal voice out there.

[JIMMY 808]

Not too surprised really it was conservative propaganda I watched it as well. 

Neutral news would be a novel idea…   

[Sonny]

I followed Sun news on FB and loved Ezra giving it to the shiney pony..lol

btw....screw the crtc..

[Walleyes]

Not too surprised really it was conservative propaganda I watched it as well. 

Neutral news would be a novel idea…   

Conservative propaganda ?? Not sure what that would be,, the truth maybe ??

The CBC says they are nutural..

[JIMMY 808]

Conservative propaganda ?? Not sure what that would be,, the truth maybe ??

The CBC says they are nutural..

What was sun news to a liberal?

What is CBC news to a conservative?

[Walleyes]

Differance is Jimmy is that the sun news network is all we as conservatives had to give us the conservative view now we have lost that. All there is now is the left view. It's a huge loss to those that care. I really don't give two hoots what the liberal morons aspect of things are,, that's jammed down our throat on every station or channel out there. There's a few of them down in the US but not up here. They let the Liberal idiots know atleast that there was still a conservative eye out there keeping tabs on them,, now what ?? It's a left wing free for all.. Think about that ..

[BruceW]

Be interesting to see what rises from the ashes of sunnews.  Brian Lilly has a podcast:  https://soundcloud.com/brianlilley/the-brian-lilley-podcast-february-16-2015

Faith Goldy and a couple others are starting, True North Reporting (think the name's right)

Ezra Levant has started therebel.media

When sun got bought out I figured that would be the end of it.  In case you missed it, here's the last episode of Brian Lilly's show on sun: 

[AxeMan]

The thing that gets me is why hasn't Harper been able to squash the CBC at all in his reign since 2006.  The national arm of the CBC is like Liberals gone wild with the likes of Peter Mansbridge and Evan Soloman.  The CBC is like an eternal liberal campaign.
Harper only cut 115 mil from the CBC when he should have axed the whole damn thing. Why would you fund an organization that is against you? Maybe save CBC radio north only.

Cant say I really liked any media, including CTV and Sun News.  Too much opinion and way too weak on facts, but hey, that is what sells.

[BruceW]

The only actual news program that I know of is the bbc world news, it's a half hour program and it's just the news:  "This is what happened today".  No opinion, no commentary, just the news as it should be.

For some reason all the N. American, "news" programs are mostly commentary.  Simple fact is, I could care less what some newscaster's opinion is, nor the opinion of any, "expert" they've found to coincide with the face's opinion, nor do I care what any politician's opinion is on what happened that day.

At least with some of the reporters from sun attempting to start various projects possibly we'll know of some of the skullduggery the cbc and ctv seem to consistently, "miss".

[Sonny]

Just a question..

Am I the only guy that want's to bitch slap Don Martin?

[JIMMY 808]

Differance is Jimmy is that the sun news network is all we as conservatives had to give us the conservative view now we have lost that. All there is now is the left view. It's a huge loss to those that care. I really don't give two hoots what the liberal morons aspect of things are,, that's jammed down our throat on every station or channel out there. There's a few of them down in the US but not up here. They let the Liberal idiots know atleast that there was still a conservative eye out there keeping tabs on them,, now what ?? It's a left wing free for all.. Think about that ..

I hear ya.

It is my understanding that all Canadian programing was somewhat subsidized buy government just not as much as the CBC case in point.
The idea of the CBC at the time really wasn’t that bad of an Idea no matter where you stood you should have had connection with the rest of the country.  Guys in remote places could still at least listen to the hockey game.

 Times have changed…

[MrDave]

Its always amazed me how people start to label news as Liberal and Conservative. Ya the comments added might have a lean to one side, but what's happening around us isn't political. Its basically just news. Most of it is just disgusting behavior.
Doesn't Conservative mean afraid of change because people are afraid their views are challenged? Liberal gets slapped on the changes that seem too progressive? Can't call someone Commie anymore so we call you Liberal... Without change where would we be?
Look at what is happening around Alberta now. A small loss of oil money and our province is in financial trouble. That's not the way a good government should be running everything. A change in the way they spend during the rich time is needed.
No I'm not a liberal, I'm a voter without a party to vote for. I have seen how poorly the PCs have been managing our province. Anyone can spend easy money. Hanging onto it is what shows good leadership.

[Walleyes]

Its always amazed me how people start to label news as Liberal and Conservative. Ya the comments added might have a lean to one side, but what's happening around us isn't political. Its basically just news. Most of it is just disgusting behavior.
Doesn't Conservative mean afraid of change because people are afraid their views are challenged? Liberal gets slapped on the changes that seem too progressive? Can't call someone Commie anymore so we call you Liberal... Without change where would we be?
Look at what is happening around Alberta now. A small loss of oil money and our province is in financial trouble. That's not the way a good government should be running everything. A change in the way they spend during the rich time is needed.
No I'm not a liberal, I'm a voter without a party to vote for. I have seen how poorly the PCs have been managing our province. Anyone can spend easy money. Hanging onto it is what shows good leadership.

No conservarive doesn't mean afraid of change its more about letting the people run thier country. It's about small government and  minimum government interference in our lives. The PC's in power in our province are anything but a conservative government. Oh they fly the flag but they are anything but. A ruling party that has been in powere far too long and has lost touch with its roots.

I am a conservarive to the core and no I am not afraid of change what I don't like is having change rammed down my throught by minorities and governments appeasing those minorities in the name of political correctness just for votes. I hold to no party inparticular by name I hold to a conservative belief that the people are responsible for running the country not politicians.

And I've got no problem calling a commie a commie it's just that what they are are Socialists. Whether they be a Liberal a Commie, NDP they are all in the same boat. Big government, high taxes, shut up and let big brother run it for you just work and pay your taxes and let them look after us. I'm not a robot, I don't want nor do I need some idiot looking after me.

[Marmot]

Sun news?

I'll be damned.
I thought that was a pundit comedy channel like onion news.

I'm gonna miss the laughs.

Oh well...theres always Fox (pronounced faux) news.

[BruceW]

Thank goodness Lilly, Goldy and yes, even Ezra are still bringing truth and the stories somehow the left wing, "media" misses.

Union threatens strike if employer doesn't donate to anti-Harper fund



Here's rebelmedia's youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGy6uV7yqGWDeUWTZzT3ZEg

[Marmot]

Thank goodness Lilly, Goldy and yes, even Ezra are still bringing truth and the stories somehow the left wing, "media" misses.

Union threatens strike if employer doesn't donate to anti-Harper fund



Here's rebelmedia's youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGy6uV7yqGWDeUWTZzT3ZEg

So?

How much did the company donate to Harpers anti-labour fund?

At the end of the day wages, benefits, scholarships and funds etc are part of the larger pay package.
How union members wish to divy that or invest it is their bussiness.
Other than the message being conveyed to the company and the government it is no different that asking for a drug plan or some other concession.
I suppose that they could drop that demand in favour of even higher wages and then donate that money themselves but that would fail to deliver the desired message and still give some folks something to complain about.

And just so you know.... some of that left wing media have been reporting this as well.

[Walleyes]

So?

How much did the company donate to Harpers anti-labour fund?

At the end of the day wages, benefits, scholarships and funds etc are part of the larger pay package.
How union members wish to divy that or invest it is their bussiness.
Other than the message being conveyed to the company and the government it is no different that asking for a drug plan or some other concession.
I suppose that they could drop that demand in favour of even higher wages and then donate that money themselves but that would fail to deliver the desired message and still give some folks something to complain about.

And just so you know.... some of that left wing media have been reporting this as well.

Lol,, you really don't see the differance in them deciding how they spend their money and the differance in them demanding how the company spends its money..

You lean pretty heavy to the left don't you marmot Not that it matters you can come out of the closet if you want,, we won't pick on you,,, not,, lol.. Just ribbing we don't get many lefties on here we like to have fun with them when we do,, makes for some good conversations..

[Marmot]

Lol,, you really don't see the differance in them deciding how they spend their money and the differance in them demanding how the company spends its money..

You lean pretty heavy to the left don't you marmot Not that it matters you can come out of the closet if you want,, we won't pick on you,,, not,, lol.. Just ribbing we don't get many lefties on here we like to have fun with them when we do,, makes for some good conversations..

The thread is about Fox north aka Sun News and a story reported by Brian Lilly.
My overall point is that the manipulation of facts and twisting of perspectives is exactly why Sun News failed.

The man is not a journalist; he is a pundit by his own admission and therefore does not even attempt to be neutral in his articles.
In fact he seeks ways to slope stories to suit his political beliefs.... that’s what pundits do....it’s their job.
He...they plant a seed of bias and then hope that nobody notices.

It works to... look how fast you were distracted from the topic of your own thread....and all it took was a seed of an idea that there was some division between us.

Squirrel!!!!
Of you went... thinking I was anti-Harper (which I am incidentally)...anti-Conservative (which I am not although I am not pleased with the party at present) and a Liberal which I am also ...not or worse yet...a Dipper which I am also...not.

The story above is a prime example of that at play.

Let me explain.

Do you know what else the union demanded that the company fund with "its own money"?

Wages, a drug plan, a pension plan and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Isn't that outrageous?
Should we all get fired right up about that?

UNION THREATENS STRIKE IF CN DOESNT PAY WORKER WAGES WITH COMPANIES OWN MONEY!!!!!

What do you think?
Would that headline get much traction?

Of course not because we'd all see right through that. In fact... we'd all probably think the reporter deserved a face palm.
But... if an evil union demands as part of their overall wage and benefits package that a portion of the money be donated directly to an organization that is anti-Harper.... then it is unacceptable....not because of the demand for money but for where it will go.

I guarantee you that if the union had demanded money be donated to Harper re-election... Lilly would have found that entirely acceptable. If the money was going to an anti-Justin fund... there would be high-5's all round.

Aside from that I think it’s a brilliant tactic for the union to employ.

First off the offset for doing that as opposed to the wages being demanded otherwise is probably fiscally attractive.
Further it sends a clear message to the PMO and finally it places the PMO is a position of interest conflict is the government elect now jumps to back to work legislation with the same vigor that they supported binding arbitration.

Anyway... it’s a un-story unless we forget that every dime doled out to workers is earned and that it all comes from the companies "own" money.
Workers during negotiations can decide what portion of the pie to seek and how they want it served... companies counter-offer and eventually they agree on something that neither party is pleased with but both must accept

Another thing I get tired of the complaint that the mainstream media is liberal biased. It’s just more skewing of facts.
Certainly the media is generally more left bias than Fox or Sun but... Fox and Sun are pretty far right of neutral so it should be expected.

Some is actually left but most is fairly neutral and as for mainstream who is more mainstream that Levant or Lilly?
Good Lord folks between television and the net and columns in newspapers across the country they are both more mainstream than any CBC or CTV etc journalist.
They certainly have more opportunity to be heard... if .... anyone wants to listen and if that isn't mainstream then I don't know what is.


Walleyes....

I'm sorry to disappoint but take on this has less to do with my politics than it does with me taking an objective view.

For the record I am historically a small c conservative but must admit that I am not pleased with Mr. Harpers tenure or the direction he has taken the party and the nation.  My personal belief is that it is time for him to step down and for the party to return to its core values and to start governing on behalf of Canadians instead of making all decisions political... placing the party before the nation and its people.

All that having been said I will no doubt be accused again of being a Liberal or a Dipper but the truth is that I am more interested in people than in parties.  I take my position right or left based upon personal experience and what is within the context of what is happening and do not allow my political leanings to sway me from what I see as being right and proper.

I may have my preferences overall but I approach things neutrally and then go with what is right rather than what is politically expedient or more comfortable.

Don't worry... I am sure we will have lots of interesting debates.
Perhaps more interesting because just when you are convinced I am Marx reincarnate... I'll go full Thatcher on ya.

[Sonny]

No I did not read all that ^^^ because I have the attention span of an earthworm..lol

But if you think Sun news is/was redneckish then you haven't listened to the "Patriot" on channel 125 Sirius radio..

[Marmot]

No I did not read all that ^^^ because I have the attention span of an earthworm..lol

But if you think Sun news is/was redneckish then you haven't listened to the "Patriot" on channel 125 Sirius radio..

  And I worked so hard on that response.

How is this?

What else did the union threaten to strike over if the company didn't pay for it with "their own" money and why is that not the headline?
Sun baited us and some bite... others don't.

Also, If you think the the so called mainstream media in Canada is leftist... you have not listened to Progress on Sirius.

Sun, Fox, Patriot, Progress, the blaze, the Rebel.... they are all cut from the same cloth.

They slope stories to suit their agenda because they are not real journalists. They are pundits and their sole purpose in life is to sell ideology masked as news....not to provide people with objective information to base decisions on.  They steer us because they do trust their fan base to have the intelligence to see through BS and... they are too often correct in that assessment.

My feeling is that whether it is left wing BS or right wing BS ... it is a mistake to support that or to allow them to dignify it by calling it news.

That is all.

Have a good day....I am out the door and off to earn the government some money.
Hopefully they will let me keep a little for myself today.....lol