The end of the long rifle registry?

[Paul]

Harper did his throne speech today and an excerpt...

Canada’s rural communities are rich in history and culture, and generations of rural Canadians have worked hard and played by the rules. They should not be the target of unfair laws. Our Government will act on its promise to introduce legislation to end the wasteful and ineffective long-gun registry.

So what does this mean exactly? What do you feel we will end up with? Some other bastardized mess, or will he truly follow through on what he initially promised? I am not so sure I trust him to do the right thing. You can read the full throne speech here http://www.speech.gc.ca/eng/media.asp?id=1390

[Guido]

I am going to cautiously trust that the long gun registry will be abolished totally.

[Tuc]

I think Harper will abolish the long gun registry, period, end of story.

[Guido]

I think Harper will abolish the long gun registry, period, end of story.

Tuc,
 I wanted to say that, but with my experience with politicians, I find that it's good to be cautious.

[Tuc]

True, but I think he will do as promised. The LGR is a total waste of money and the Tories would like to see that cash go into law enforcement. I really don't think there will be any strings attached.

[walleyes]

Although I do believe Harper would love to totally abolish the registry I can't help but think he will have to have some sort of registry in place to appease the Liberals in this country.

I am with Guido on this one,, my trust for politicians is very short.. We will see.

[Sonny]

Seems to me that a lot off the dippers want it gone too so I think it is just a matter of time now.

[bigbore444]

Well since the registry has been in place has anyone actually been charged with having a unregistered long firearm in Alberta? I have never heard of a case.

[MountainTi]

Well since the registry has been in place has anyone actually been charged with having a unregistered long firearm in Alberta? I have never heard of a case.

I know 2 guys personally who have been stopped with unregistered hunting rifles. Rifles are seized until they are registered, then returned to owner, no charges laid.

[MountainTi]

I am going to cautiously trust that the long gun registry will be abolished totally.

I too hope it ends in the near future, but I ain't holding my breath

[Joe Fehr]

It was in the Throne Speach so hopefully it comes to fruition. I'm sure it won't be one of the first things that Harpers gov does but it will be fairly quick to ensure the funding for the tougher crime laws has adequate funding. I can see it being tied in with the tougher crime laws to ensure that everyone is 100% for it and any opposition will look like pansies if they vote against it causing even more voter support for Harper and less for the rest of the morons that call themselves the opposition.

[Paul]

Tougher laws were the answer a long time ago when they started the long rifle registry nonsense. If you commit a crime with a firearm you go to jail for so long you forget what you were even sent to jail for. Mandatory minimum sentences are a far better deterrent than people having to register their hunting rifles.

[wildmeat]

quick question for yall... and be honest... who has a rifle or two that didnt actually get registered? i know im guilty and i know 20 other local fellas who are as well... and no person alive would ever find them either so no crime could be committed with them but my family has long standing traditions and beliefs that once your guns have been identified and taken away you can no longer defend your family and property... hopefully this doesnt sound to left wing to any of ya but..... ill leave it with that simple question

[Weste]

In the last month I have crossed the border on a hunting trip and I went through a checkstop while returning from an evening of sitting on a bear bait.  In both instances i was not asked about guns rifles or weapons of any sort so i believe they are definitely backing off already.

I do believe the PAL and the gun safety course will stay even though I suspect the long gun registry will disappear.

Wildmeat - I registered all I had but then started to "inherit" a few from friends who didnt want to take the course and get their PAL's that i did not register.

[TheSylvanSpinner]

quick question for yall... and be honest... who has a rifle or two that didnt actually get registered? i know im guilty and i know 20 other local fellas who are as well... and no person alive would ever find them either so no crime could be committed with them but my family has long standing traditions and beliefs that once your guns have been identified and taken away you can no longer defend your family and property... hopefully this doesnt sound to left wing to any of ya but..... ill leave it with that simple question

Thats RIGHT WING bud!

[wildmeat]

lol my bad

[Lurch]

There is little doubt in my mind that the registry will disappear. The devil is always in the details

That being said there has been a fair amount of discussion around what "concessions" may be given to the anti gunners as it does.

I have heard that there is significant pressure from some law enforcement agencies (look east) to have some additions to the restricted and prohibited lists - things like mini 14's.

I would see a elimination of the registry but increased restrictions on certain firearms as a loss for the firearms community - make sure you write these guys we voted in and let them know that the abolition of the registry means no additional restrictions.

[Cowtown guy]

There is little doubt in my mind that the registry will disappear. The devil is always in the details

That being said there has been a fair amount of discussion around what "concessions" may be given to the anti gunners as it does.

I have heard that there is significant pressure from some law enforcement agencies (look east) to have some additions to the restricted and prohibited lists - things like mini 14's.

I would see a elimination of the registry but increased restrictions on certain firearms as a loss for the firearms community - make sure you write these guys we voted in and let them know that the abolition of the registry means no additional restrictions.

This is exactly what I think will happen.  Anyone wanting to play with an AR may want to buy at least the lower so you are grandfathered in.

[Paul]

Well since the registry has been in place has anyone actually been charged with having a unregistered long firearm in Alberta? I have never heard of a case.

I know 2 guys personally who have been stopped with unregistered hunting rifles. Rifles are seized until they are registered, then returned to owner, no charges laid.

What Ti said. I know 1 guy that got his unregistered rifle seized, they actually charged him. The judge dropped the charges and told him to register his gun if he wanted it back. He did so and got his rifle back.