The rcmp Gestapo rounding up guns in high river

[Paul]

Heard the rcmp were really busy rounding up firearms from empty houses with no warrants in high river instead of out helping people. Thank God they are keeping us safe.

[AxeMan]

Yep, read all about it.  Disgusting!
Purely corruption and power tripping.

I hope they get their asses sued off off in a class action.
It is bad enough that the poor people in High River are living a catastrophe, now they they are being punished by our authorities.

[Paul]

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/06/28/matt-gurney-the-rcmp-picked-a-bad-time-to-seize-peoples-firearms/

[walleyes]

Well you know what they say,, you can put all the perfume you want on a pig,, when you're done it's still a pig !!

[Tuc]

Naaa, how would they know where to look, after all they did destroy the gun registar. 

[walleyes]

Unfortunately there is no one to blame but ourselves for this type of thing. It is us the people that have relinquished our rights to the government.. It is us that allow this to take place.

Don't you just love socialism,, isn't it wonderfull and such an advanced style of living. ??

[Weste]

This to me is plain unacceptable as these officers abused their authority and started an action that was not consistent with the state of emergency that was declared. Deciding to infringe on the rights of homeowners in way that had no influence on the current state of emergency was an obvious abuse of authority. Just plain unacceptable!!

[Paul]

Shows their true agenda the rcmp can't stand law abiding gun owners having guns, it's the culture.

[BruceW]

Notice how all of a sudden today people are being let back into high river?  Yesterday it was far too dangerous to let property owners have access to their property.  A couple national articles and it's fine, 3 hrs later.  Nothing to see here, move along.  Don't ask any questions and we won't trump up any charges. 

Yet Calgary homes weren't targeted.  Then again, Calgary sheep voted for the left wing pc's.  Maybe this'll teach the people of high river for wanting to stand on their own two feet?

Whatever the true reason for this, there's a lot more going on than appears on the surface, and it has nothing to do with safety or my favorite, searching for bodies.

Perhaps the politicians and rcmp think a few bullshit excuses will sweep this under the rug  but rural people have long memories, and can smell snakeoil a mile away.

[BruceW]

Naaa, how would they know where to look, after all they did destroy the gun registar. 

PAL's, and the handgun registry.

Timely video:  http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/search-and-seizure/2516263738001

[Tuc]

Exactly, targeted means they had a way of knowing guns were in the residence. Anywho, I hope the people of HR sue their asses and charge them for break and enter.

[AxeMan]

What really disturbs me about disaster responses in this country is the way the authorities abuse their perceived powers.  This power abuse comes right from the top down to the lowly donut muncher who is used to taking orders and not making an intelligent decision their whole life.

We have Alison Redford making promises on an empty wallet and floundering in debt that she will look after the flood victims.  Yeah right, that would give me confidence.

We have small town Mayors like that clown in High River spewing his safety bullshit as a reason to exile residents from their homes for over a week while their houses rot.  Funny he hasn't been physically thrown out yet, but oh ya, the RCMP are protecting him from his people.....

Then we have our RCMP, the best thing they could find to do is protect the people from themselves by going into that DANGER AREA (lol) and bust in doors and steal the residents firearms from their houses.   They say that they are protecting the possessions of the residents, what a crock!

It is not the authorities or the government that will help us recover from any natural disaster.  It is us, the hard working citizens, that will clean up, rebuild, and pay taxes the whole way along.  Mr. RCMP isn't going to pump out your flooded basement.  He wouldn't know a hose from a pump, besides that he is too busy protecting you from yourself.  The authorities are corralling the people who built the community from actually doing anything.  Just think of us as a group here on Sportsman, I'll bet we collectively have more resources and know-how and drive to help clean up mess like in High River than the clowns that are busy running the show down there now and keeping the people exiled from their community.  It is the people that live in that town who will rebuild, but for now the authorities are treating them like invalids that are doomed to kill themselves.  For now the water is too dangerous, bacteria filled, and their are no drug stores open.  Once they are tired of their power-trip and the residents are allowed back in, all those excuses will be a mute point once the real work begins.

There are individuals in government, and the local authorities, and the RCMP that are truly trying to help but those are the ones that have to buck the system and probably break rules to do the right thing.  It makes me puke when I see the likes of Alison Redford and Stephen Harper tour disaster areas like bloody tourists.  Doesn't the beaurocracy have a bunch of over-payed more qualified people to assess the damage and report back through the chain of command.

[AxeMan]

Harper condemns RCMP actions.  Redford supports.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/give-back-flood-victims-guns-harpers-office-tells-rcmp

[sheepguide]

Haven't followed this much and am wondering if they just took guns out that were unlocked and unencased or if they opened safes and gun lockers?

[AxeMan]

At least one that I know of was taken out of a case that was stored in the back of a closet, out of plain sight.  A trustworthy fellow on another forum confirmed this.

[JIMMY 808]

I store my firearms in safes in the basement the safes would be to heavy to move up stairs buy myself.  If a wall of water was headed my way I would start moving the most valuable things from the basement up I don’t have 40 trigger locks but I do have locks on all the bedrooms up stairs I could make safe storage in a pinch. 
 
 Most likely what happened is guns were placed in closets on top of beds under beds and then a panic to leave under life and limb.  What the RCMP did was outrages I have at least 3 friends in Hi River that are flooded out and are firearm owners they are not yet sure what has happened to their guns as they have not been allowed back yet.

On a side note big thanks to Justin C he helped rescue People in a boat in Hi River and even took his own boat to help out.  All at the same time the community he lived in was being flooded in Calgary.  I found out another real good friend of mine took a Zodiac there as well.           

[Lance Skene]

So what other option did the police have, should they have left unlocked firearms for some lowlife to steal them? I havent heard of any looting in the aftermath but theres certainly alot of hoodlums around that would gladly take advantage of a situation like this. Then what would the story be? Media complaining the police left firearms laying around?

"IF" all legal firearms are returned I dont see a problem here, how they were stored should not be an issue in this case since they may have been moved prior to evacuating, nor should ownership, firearms are supposedly tagged and should be returned to the owner of the home they were removed from without any further proof of ownership.

Little early to jump to conclusions IMO





   

[JIMMY 808]

Good point lance.
But gun owners in particular were profiled homes were broken into buy police with out warrants and privet property was taken.  To my understanding lance the whole town was locked up 160 plus RCMP spike belts across roads no one could get in or out. 

  I go on vacation and leave my fireams locked up at home this gets back to a central storage of fireams they want. 

  The LGR is over big $&@-! deal it ending has done me  nothing.

[Sonny]

So what other option did the police have, should they have left unlocked firearms for some lowlife to steal them?

But yet they left other valuables such as jewelry,high end electronics,piggy banks behind.

Wouldn't some lowlife steal them also?

The cops targeting only guns smells bad....really bad.

[BruceW]

  http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm

"OR  Lock the firearms in a cabinet, container or room that is difficult to break into."  I'd suggest having to borrow the army's breaching tools to break and enter a house would qualify it as difficult to access?

Do you honestly believe more than a thousand longuns were left, "lying around in plain sight"?  Well, I guess after the locked entrance door was forcibly breached, the house searched, the closet opened, the gun case opened, ya, after that it may be in plain sight? 
Why were only certain houses broken into???

Lance would it make you feel safer if the rcmp broke into your house when next you're on vacation, stole your guns and left your busted door blowing in the breeze?  That's a fair analogy.



IMO this was taken as an opportunity to see just how far they can go.  One things for certain, rural people have good memories, we all came here to escape tyranny.  This will not be forgotten, or forgiven.  If anyone thinks that's foolish, I'd suggest reading some history.  This is nothing new, just new to our society.

I've written the PMO and my MLA.  Unless you want to see rcmp candidates on the ballet next election, I'd strongly suggest all do the same.

History is a great teacher.  Too bad schools stopped teaching it in the 60's and most people don't read anything of value.