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Fishing Log 2018.
« on: May 20, 2018, 03:15:19 PM »
I will keep it going for the rest of the season.

No pics today but the boy and I were out on Marie yesterday afternoon for a couple 4 hrs. You know Marie the one they closed to Walleye retention 2 years ago because it's collapsed. Just drug some random minnow baits around, nailed a few smaller Pike nothing big and I think it was 6 nice Walleye. I believe we landed more eyes than Pike in that collapsed lake.. Talk about a racket this province has going with those tags just unreal. The boy was going out there last summer with his buddies and his friends aren't really Walleye fishermen, on an average night they wouldn't land 40 Walleye some nights over 60, in that collapsed lake. It's time for a serious change in this province it really is.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2018, 08:59:42 AM »

 I agree totally ..This nonsense started years ago with
  the Tories in power....now, no politician comes up with
  this crap , it's all the machine .....after my long conversation
  with the Top Provincial Biologist about Prussian Carp , we moved
  On to Walleyes etc ....As unbelievable as this may seem , i said
   very little . I listened , no surprises ,
    1 ....under funded ...
     2 .....C&R is the only way , to maintain populations .
      3.... Tags are a necessary Tax ....
       
       So we need to change the Govt , elect people who will .
         call BS to the biologists. We need our own Fishing Suzuki .
         
          I read , I hear,  people talk ......" The Kings Deer "
            Feudal system still in place .....
           
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2018, 06:00:48 PM »
Got out today again, pretty slow on the lake we were on, got a couple decent Pike couple small buggers and one nice eye. Over all pretty slow on the lake we were on today.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 06:11:05 PM »
I agree totally ..This nonsense started years ago with
  the Tories in power....now, no politician comes up with
  this crap , it's all the machine .....after my long conversation
  with the Top Provincial Biologist about Prussian Carp , we moved
  On to Walleyes etc ....As unbelievable as this may seem , i said
   very little . I listened , no surprises ,
    1 ....under funded ...
     2 .....C&R is the only way , to maintain populations .
      3.... Tags are a necessary Tax ....
       
       So we need to change the Govt , elect people who will .
         call BS to the biologists. We need our own Fishing Suzuki .
         
          I read , I hear,  people talk ......" The Kings Deer "
            Feudal system still in place .....
         

You are right w101 this started with the Tories lazy asses and lack of funding. I guess with the way the province started to expand they needed funds in other places, roads, schools hospitals etc. I can understand that but it's time to get back to dealing with the issue in this province. It's time to start the Walleye stocking programs again, and no excuses it doesn't work it works do to the sheer numbers that can go in. It's not about self sustaining, that ship has sailed this day and age forget about that. It's about a put and take fishery at this point, it's about giving people something back. It's about creating an industry and business that's what it's about.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 06:48:54 PM »

Walleyes , this is an interesting situation . I have fished
 Mille Lacs lake in Minnesota 3 times . I found it to be the
 equal of any lake in Manitoba or NW Ontario .
 A post on Walleye Central caught my eye last year ,
  about the lake being closed . Since I can remember
  Minnesota has spent millions yearly in walleye stocking.
   Puzzling to say the least .

https://www.twincities.com/2018/03/19/mille-lacs-faces-3rd-catch-and-release-only-walleye-season/

   
   
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 07:30:08 PM »
It is interesting, it's interesting as they don't necessarily put the blame on over fishing but more on the Eco system of the lake changing and or invasive species. They can't really put their finger on what is happening. When I read it I see that the stocking program must have been working for years but do to unforeseen issues they have yet to nail down why it is collapsing.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2018, 12:26:32 PM »
Walleyes , this is an interesting situation . I have fished
 Mille Lacs lake in Minnesota 3 times . I found it to be the
 equal of any lake in Manitoba or NW Ontario .
 A post on Walleye Central caught my eye last year ,
  about the lake being closed . Since I can remember
  Minnesota has spent millions yearly in walleye stocking.
   Puzzling to say the least .

https://www.twincities.com/2018/03/19/mille-lacs-faces-3rd-catch-and-release-only-walleye-season/

   
   


I would have figured Minnesota would have a pretty good grasp of their Walleye populations. That article is eye opening.

Do you have any information on how  Manitoba is making out in their fisheries? 

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 08:42:16 PM »
           Nice catch Walleyes, always great to get out and stretch the rods out a bit.  Fishin is just gonna get better and looks like you guys aint doin to bad at all.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2018, 06:53:55 AM »

Ya grey ,....just to finish off Minnesota.....they for years were
  the leaders in monies spent on restocking walleyes . So obviously
  money alone does not guarantee resource .

  Manitoba has been stocking eyes for a number of years .
  There a good number of land locked lakes within 1.5 hrs
   Of the Peg  , that were fished hard in the 70s , I know
    with the advent of fish locators and live bait , I certainly
     gave them a pounding . Today limits are minimal , stocking
      Is on going . Having access to the Winnipeg River system
      ( includes.   Lk Winnipeg , the river system is huge and
        Lake of the Woods ) and small population.....make for
        a fabulous fishery . It's interesting when we have keeper
        Limits ,it's pretty well the same as LoW , but they want you
         To eat the babies.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2018, 08:04:13 PM »
            Let's hope we don't get any zebra muscle infestations is what I get from that.    The article is written in a way that make it sound like clearer water, less forage species, and more zebra muscles are three different battles to contend but the zebra muscles are the root cause of clearer water and less forage species.

           Here it seems that the biologists are so scared that a hook might escape a walleye they let them populate to the point where it's the walleye themselves that are throwing the ecosystems out of balance.

           We have a real problem in Alberta imho, and we need a fresh perspective in management.
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2018, 09:28:46 PM »
     Here it seems that the biologists are so scared that a hook might escape a walleye they let them populate to the point where it's the walleye themselves that are throwing the ecosystems out of balance.

           We have a real problem in Alberta imho, and we need a fresh perspective in management.

This nails it right here OL_JR
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2018, 05:00:31 PM »

In a normal ( this is, far from it ) when the season opens , the ice
 has been out for a month or so .
  Today those eyes are still in a post partumn spawn depression,
   it was a tough go in a southern reservoir , piles of hammer handle
    pike were caught . One good eye .
     Saw something new , a sh--load of black Prussian carp surface feeding
     On Gnats .
       Beautiful day really
     
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2018, 05:28:52 PM »
Nice looking eye w101.

Momma and I got out on Cold Lake this morning for a bit, didn't make it to long and a big storm cloud came over and that was it the wife wanted out of there lol. Didn't try to hard only one Pike, very cold out there yet. Average water temp is only 41 degrees and that on the surface so it's got a ways to go. Never even tried for lakers mostly went just to get the big boat out and make sure it's ready for the season.

Got to love those E Tec engines. This is the 13th season on my 175, dumped it in the water and it was like it was ran 5 mins before not sat all winter, never made a complete turn and it fired up and purred like a kitten,, love that engine.
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2018, 01:49:38 PM »
Walleyes , this is an interesting situation . I have fished
 Mille Lacs lake in Minnesota 3 times . I found it to be the
 equal of any lake in Manitoba or NW Ontario .
 A post on Walleye Central caught my eye last year ,
  about the lake being closed . Since I can remember
  Minnesota has spent millions yearly in walleye stocking.
   Puzzling to say the least .

https://www.twincities.com/2018/03/19/mille-lacs-faces-3rd-catch-and-release-only-walleye-season/

   
   

Here is another article that I thought was quite good.
http://www.startribune.com/why-stocking-fish-isn-t-the-answer-to-walleye-woes-on-mille-lacs/301328271/
They address why slot my not be so good and why stocking might not be a good choice.
I also liked that they addressed where you put the size limits can dramatically affect the male population, which in this case seems to lead to a significant affect. ie lots of spawning females not a lot of off spring though. I have found that the 43 - 50 slot (B tags) takes out greater than 90% males and given fish are broadcast fertilizers this can certainly lead to problems.

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 07:04:36 PM »
Here is another article that I thought was quite good.
http://www.startribune.com/why-stocking-fish-isn-t-the-answer-to-walleye-woes-on-mille-lacs/301328271/
They address why slot my not be so good and why stocking might not be a good choice.
I also liked that they addressed where you put the size limits can dramatically affect the male population, which in this case seems to lead to a significant affect. ie lots of spawning females not a lot of off spring though. I have found that the 43 - 50 slot (B tags) takes out greater than 90% males and given fish are broadcast fertilizers this can certainly lead to problems.

      Maybe I'm crazy but there is a bit of conflicting info in this article as well.  Apparently there are plenty of females and they are producing many young fish.  The "mojo" must come from somewhere if that is the case.

      On the other hand it says that to many young walleye are dying.  It also stated that big walleye eat little walleye.  In a lake with a zebra muscle infestation, therefore a forage fish shortage, and therefore a bunch of hungry big walleye, it would seem that the answers are all there.

      These articles are a good read and much appreciated.  However if the intention was to draw parallels to Alberta I don't believe there are many to be had.

      By the way nice fish W101 dandy for sure.

     
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2018, 04:27:50 PM »
Been getting out some the last couple days, been out on the big lake a couple times, the Lakers are hitting pretty good. They are scattered in depth from 20' down to 90'. Spoons have been really hot, today momma and I were out for a few hours and I didn't even take bait or flashers. Ran some extra chrome shinny spoons and they liked em. A couple that hit I thought were tanks they pulled like horses couple of the best fights I've had with lakers. They put on a good fight on the 9 weight fly rod. Last night we hit Marie,, you know another one of Albertas collapsed lakes they closed 2 years ago. We landed in the neighbourhood of 20 eyes in a couple hours, a few double headers, all nice healthy looking fish they are saving for the natives to net,, none for the white man he has to go to work and pay taxes so the natives have money to buy gas and set nets. Came by a couple on the drive home skinning a moose in the ditch they shot off the paved road,, here I thought discharging a firearm along or across a maintained road was illegal, again just for the white man I guess.
Anyways a couple pics from the last couple days.










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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2018, 01:40:43 PM »

Thanks for the pix Walleyes.

Those are some really healthy looking fish.

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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2018, 12:30:53 PM »
 
 Those young guys with the big Pike that is just
  Fabulous.To most people those are fish of a lifetime .
  And your looking good to Walleye .
     This is a pic from the real olden days , maybe 70s
   Opening weekend on the Winnipeg River , a couple of limits ,
    all those fish were Eaten , steamed...poor man's lobster ,
    Canned with tomato juice , Chinese fish balls ....yum yum .
     Trust me we never thought it would come to this ..
       I should be back to fishing down here in another week...
        Been slow here my partner tells me .
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2018, 01:00:04 PM »
Hi W101:

I have a couple of questions about Manitoba fishing.

Can a person catch pike, bass, and catfish in the same body of water, or does it depend where you go in Manitoba?

Do people eat crayfish in Manitoba?

Do you have muskies in Manitoba and are they much different than pike?

How far north in Manitoba do you have to go to catch natural wild brookies?

Hope you have a most excellent trip. :)

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2018, 03:55:44 PM »
It seemed it was never going to end was it boys. I remember as a kid 10-12 pound Pike being a pain in the butt, jto many people is all. They wonder why so many are against imagration. To those living in the shit hole cities probly doesn't make a difference it's just another asshole down the street to them. To us that enjoy the outdoors and live an urban lifestyle more people are not a good thing, it effects our way of life immensely and not in a positive way.   
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