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JIMMY 808

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This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« on: October 17, 2013, 07:45:07 AM »
Something a 7-08 will never be a 162 A-max at 3000 fps 



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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2013, 08:53:28 PM »
I just broke 3000 with a 7-08 improved variant I have been working on for next years f-open with 162 amaxes.will probably run 168 Chinchaga,s at 2900 when it is all said and done.this is out of a 30 inch barrel.

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2013, 09:42:04 PM »

Catch me if you can! :P



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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2013, 09:34:26 PM »
no thanks.too much recoil for me!!

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 08:18:21 AM »
This always interested me but the cost of the rifle, even used put me off from trying it:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-378_Weatherby_Magnum

.308, 180gr, 3400+ fps, over 2500lbs energy remaining at 400yds and almost unbelievably accurate.  I figure that'd be pretty much the ideal mountain elk cartridge.  Sort of a 300wm, but better.

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 12:31:16 PM »
This always interested me but the cost of the rifle, even used put me off from trying it:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-378_Weatherby_Magnum

.308, 180gr, 3400+ fps, over 2500lbs energy remaining at 400yds and almost unbelievably accurate.  I figure that'd be pretty much the ideal mountain elk cartridge.  Sort of a 300wm, but better.

I have only been around one 30-378 it had a brake on it from the factory I was well aware when it went off beside me.  An impressive machine it would need a barrel to contain it's  awesomeness.  I belive the 300 bear was a 30-378 with a 40 degree sholder guys were running in 1000 yard heavey bench rest rail guns not sure I belive in the you can't make things deader theory.

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 12:32:37 PM »
I just broke 3000 with a 7-08 improved variant I have been working on for next years f-open with 162 amaxes.will probably run 168 Chinchaga,s at 2900 when it is all said and done.this is out of a 30 inch barrel.

Bob have you ever worked the BC back on the 162 amax I belive it's better then advertised?

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2013, 04:29:24 PM »
Looks like fun boys.

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2013, 09:17:08 PM »
Catch me if you can! :P



What is the deal with the LRM? What speeds are you suppose to get? what is the recoil suppose to be like? I shoot a 180 berger out my rum and can shoot around 3200 fps but my tightest groups are at 3050 though.

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2013, 10:01:38 PM »
Bob have you ever worked the BC back on the 162 amax I belive it's better then advertised?
  yup.i think they were very conservative on their bc number for the amax.i would bet closer to .630 to .640.have you or anyone ever shot the hornady match bullets in this weight?

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2013, 10:02:06 PM »
What is the deal with the LRM? What speeds are you suppose to get? what is the recoil suppose to be like? I shoot a 180 berger out my rum and can shoot around 3200 fps but my tightest groups are at 3050 though.

  2.580 case leangh is the deal and 99gr of h20 capacity necking it down will reduce somewhat.  Going to run 25 inch barrel because some ass will say 24 is to short and 26 is too long and because I can.  3200 is my plan but will have to see how the crap horn brass holds up.  Recoil won't be an issue it's only a 162gr bullet...

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2013, 10:15:26 PM »
  yup.i think they were very conservative on their bc number for the amax.i would bet closer to .630 to .640.have you or anyone ever shot the hornady match bullets in this weight?

Thanks I kind of figured that I just modified my muzzle fps to
Match come ups.

  Jordan Smith likely has shot the 162 hpbt I ask him to chime in if he has. 

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2013, 10:24:11 PM »
  2.580 case leangh is the deal and 99gr of h20 capacity necking it down will reduce somewhat.  Going to run 25 inch barrel because some ass will say 24 is to short and 26 is too long and because I can.  3200 is my plan but will have to see how the crap horn brass holds up.  Recoil won't be an issue it's only a 162gr bullet...
24" is to short. IMO 26" is min for a 7mm cartridge. I ment to say is it going to kick like a 7 mag or an rum? What twist did you go with? 1 in 9? what is the rifle being built off? Cant wait to see this gem.

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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2013, 10:25:13 PM »
Thanks I kind of figured that I just modified my muzzle fps to
Match come ups.

  Jordan Smith likely has shot the 162 hpbt I ask him to chime in if he has.
hpbt have a better BC than amax.

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2013, 10:39:23 PM »
24" is to short. IMO 26" is min for a 7mm cartridge. I ment to say is it going to kick like a 7 mag or an rum? What twist did you go with? 1 in 9? what is the rifle being built off? Cant wait to see this gem.

Went with a benchmark 1-9 crom moly will be on a KS rem mtn rilfe.  IMO there is no free lunch a 162gr bullet out of the 7 saum is going to kick as much as a 162gr bullet out of a 7-08 if both are running 3000fps that's my opinion.  So the 7mm LRM is going to kick like a 162 at 3200 fps.  This is not scientific sicance just my feeling towards recoil.   

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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2013, 10:53:18 PM »
Went with a benchmark 1-9 crom moly will be on a KS rem mtn rilfe.  IMO there is no free lunch a 162gr bullet out of the 7 saum is going to kick as much as a 162gr bullet out of a 7-08 if both are running 3000fps that's my opinion.  So the 7mm LRM is going to kick like a 162 at 3200 fps.  This is not scientific sicance just my feeling towards recoil.
that is funny jimmy.  Good analogy on recoil.  I guess I will have to try it after you build it.  ;)

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2013, 10:15:18 PM »
Thanks I kind of figured that I just modified my muzzle fps to
Match come ups.

  Jordan Smith likely has shot the 162 hpbt I ask him to chime in if he has.
    good.i just don't want to buy a sleeve of them to find out they are mediocre.would rather wait and shoot bergers or smk,s.im asking because they are quite a bit cheaper than the others

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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2013, 12:06:29 AM »
    good.i just don't want to buy a sleeve of them to find out they are mediocre.would rather wait and shoot bergers or smk,s.im asking because they are quite a bit cheaper than the others
The bthp bullets are equal to Berger's for BC and are 30% cheaper. 

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2013, 01:05:41 PM »
Thanks I kind of figured that I just modified my muzzle fps to
Match come ups.

  Jordan Smith likely has shot the 162 hpbt I ask him to chime in if he has.
  that is what I have to do all the time running jury barrels.his barrels are tight,they are obviously stretching bullets out and upping bc on bullets.case in point my 6.5x47 lapua.what my actuall shot confirmed to 1000m numbers are saying is ridiculous.

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Re: This Much Awesome Needs To Be In A Can
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2013, 09:42:39 PM »
    good.i just don't want to buy a sleeve of them to find out they are mediocre.would rather wait and shoot bergers or smk,s.im asking because they are quite a bit cheaper than the others

JS has not shot them always the A-max he says.  It might be worth while buying a sleeve of the htbt Hornady has moved its tooling around to keep up with demands more hunters then shooters of course.  I have shot Bergers before they where cool 1997 or so mostly in 6mm and 17 cal stuff I have never much been impressed with them except for some flat base 6mm stuff.