Author Topic: Alberta game management (Read 5981 times)

guido · « **on:** February 09, 2016, 01:10:28 PM »

Alberta Game Management Advisory Council. This is the group that discusses/changes policies and regulations. Does anyone else have input?

Paul · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:29:38 PM »

No more supplemental antlerless whitetail tags would be a start.

sonny · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2016, 05:43:34 AM »

Allow the use of quads in F.L.U.Z. for the retrieval of big game animals.

Walleyes · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2016, 06:53:51 AM »

Stop handing out tags to outfitters when citizens of the province have to go without. If our populations aren't stable enough to support our own there certainly shouldn't be enough to sell. We have zones that require a priority 8 for moose that have outfitters in them taking moose,, what's wrong with this picture. We have zones in the north that 15 years ago a 150 whitetail was a decent but not huge buck. Today we have a yank sitting in a stand every 2 miles and a 150 is rare.

Paul · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2016, 08:43:42 AM »

When I started hunting there were just over a million people in the province. You got 1 whitetail tag, you could shoot a buck or a doe in some zones. Some zones it was buck with a 2 week window to take a doe. Now there are over 4 million people in Alberta, and they make it possible to take 2 does, and 3 in a lot of zones. Math doesn't work, I have seen a decline in deer quality and quantity over the past 10 years, almost to the point that I don't even want to go hunting anymore. In the past 3 years I have seen 2 deer that I would even consider shooting, used to see 5 or 6 shooters in a season easily.

LeverAction · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2016, 10:14:32 AM »

I agree Paul and Walleyes, one tag per hunter and some zones 2 weeks doe season. I have seen way to many trucks full of deer in the last few years, we forget it's not about how many, it's about the privilege and the opportunity to hunt. As for the outfitters, when every draw has been filled by residents of Alberta then maybe allow a small amount to be taken, but I would think that we put more money into the economy than any foreign hunter, and our sport could survive with out them.

guido · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2016, 10:54:29 AM »

If you want your voice heard, contact Matt Besko at AEP. Hopefully he will take your comments to the Alberta Game Management Advisory Council meetings.

honkerhitter · « **Reply #7 on:** February 18, 2016, 06:16:23 AM »

I beleive they are more worried about new acronyms for the department then game management.
It was ESRD , now it's changed not sure to what.
These bureaucrats running the department are some low down sneeky dirtballs IMHO.
They called a town hall meeting in our area last year to discuss CWD , the Muledeer Mangament strategy , and the moose in 500's going to draw.. First thing they did was book it at 7:30pm March 17 2015. Yep St Patricks Day , they purposely hoped that St Paddy celebrations would Quell the turn out, and they were right.
Second thing they did was put in a small blurb in the local paper . About a 1/2" by 2" blurb in the classifieds , no formal invitation to our ABA club, our AFGA club, the local ABP rep was also not told. Thru word of mouth a good representation was at the meeting. When the meeting got under way it became quite apparent this was not a " consultation or two- way conversation ", we were simply told this is what is happening blah blah blah rehearsed replies to question s over and over never deviating .
Basically a waste of everyone's time and energy, maybe that's why they picked St.Paddys those that skipped the lie Fest likley had their time well spent.

Walleyes · « **Reply #8 on:** February 18, 2016, 06:43:18 PM »

One has to be concerned with any changes that may be coming with our new government in place. They have so far shown themselves to be inept at just about everything they have touched what mistakes are going to be made here. They haven't a clue to the situation of anything out there so this leaves them to be majorly influenced by self serving groups. Scary thought.

guido · « **Reply #9 on:** February 18, 2016, 07:37:15 PM »

A very good reason for individuals to be sending emails. They may not listen, but if none are sent they definitely won't be listened too.

Paul · « **Reply #10 on:** February 19, 2016, 09:08:56 AM »

I don't think it matters who's at the helm, these decisions are made at a bureaucratic level and will continue to be made at this level, the biologists and the old boys club. I have 2 major issues with the SRD, whitetail deer management, and walleye management. They have massively failed at both of these. Moose have been well managed, elk as well. Not sure on other species like sheep because I don't hunt them.

LeverAction · « **Reply #11 on:** February 19, 2016, 04:16:00 PM »

And how the heck do you get to the bureaucrats and old boys club? Unless you can get a thousand people marching on the government buildings and scare the politicians into changing the club, I'm afraid it will stay a dictatorship, and we won't have a say.

honkerhitter · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2016, 09:14:33 AM »

Quote from: LeverAction on February 19, 2016, 04:16:00 PM

And how the heck do you get to the bureaucrats and old boys club? Unless you can get a thousand people marching on the government buildings and scare the politicians into changing the club, I'm afraid it will stay a dictatorship, and we won't have a say.

Well you really can't , the are union protected and even if they managed to be fired the pay out would cost us taxpayers huge.. You can only hope to bring half decent qualified people that can think for themselves, but by the time Margo and crew are done with them they are likley as bad or worse then the current staff.
I have zero faith in this current NDP government to do anything positive for hunters and fishermen.
They seem to built around catering to special interest groups .
I expect things to get down right stupid over the next 3 years.

Walleyes · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2016, 03:15:36 PM »

I know one thing,, we can expect even more generosity shown to Metis and First Nations when it comes to these issues. If thats even possible.

BuckTracker · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2016, 08:37:24 AM »

No more doe tags, no more landowner tags, no more Americans, and no more outfitters!

AxeMan · « **Reply #15 on:** March 02, 2016, 11:08:34 AM »

Quote from: BuckTracker on March 02, 2016, 08:37:24 AM

No more doe tags, no more landowner tags, no more Americans, and no more outfitters!

Haha...Can't argue with that.

JIMMY 808 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 02, 2016, 07:05:42 PM »

Sure hope no one in charge reads any of this some poor emotion drivin comments...

AxeMan · « **Reply #17 on:** March 02, 2016, 07:11:36 PM »

Like they would listen to us anyway.
APOS spews their greedy interests.
I spew my mine as a resident hunter.

Call it even.

JIMMY 808 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2016, 07:35:29 PM »

There is no arguing that axe some shady dealings they have pulled.

IMO the biggest change besides the population increase in Alberta are these Internet forums...

Walleyes · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2016, 07:23:01 PM »

Quote from: JIMMY 808 on March 02, 2016, 07:05:42 PM

Sure hope no one in charge reads any of this some poor emotion drivin comments...

I wouldn't call it poor emotion just peoples thoughts is what it is. My hope would be they would read it and take some of it to heart. People are fed up with the management of some of our fish and game in this province and the brain dead way our leaders are going about it is wrong there is no nice way to put it. Does that hurt someone's feel good emotions inside,, too bad.

It is what it is.