Also if you want to come bash me on here cause of how far off the road I was. Get a life and grow up. I know a shit pot of people that dont have one that have put in years and years. I have passed on 3 this year 2 last year do to sitting out. How about you???  By the way it was further than you think. You know nothing of my hunt other than what others that were not there told you. Maybe you should ask first or maybe you should look closer to a road.LOL.

  I guess that's why you're a hero member. You should change your name to sheep goddess.

No need making things a rich mans sport! Sure a little higher tag fees isn't going to hurt and I'm sure even  twice the price it wouldn't  limit anyone and would put in some extra much need conservation funds and more funding to help with habitat and inter province transplants.

As for draws I feel they are very unneeded at this point. But I do feel some other restrictions could be beneficial. Longer waits and curl restrictions are deffinatly a better option then draws. Many don't agree that there is a problem and 98% of that is just opinion based on personal ideas so arguing it is basically a waste. The change is coming and right now the the fight should be how to keep as many hunters in the field and trying to avoid the one in a lifetime type draws.

I couldn't agree more, I think it's important for us to put pressure on everyone at the table here to not go to a draw. It's kind of a catch 22 this whole situation. Most don't want a change and don't feel a need for one, but know one is coming and if you start to negotiate it's almost negotiate your own execution in a way.

If they want more mature Rams on the mountain the only way to do it, IMO, is going to full-curl. Obviously if they go to this there will be a short term decline legal Rams, but you will still be able to hunt. For me that`s the most important part. Being able to hunt.

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I just don't understand this.

Alberta has relocated sheep from the mine site to other areas of Alberta.  And mountain goats as well.

I have no problem with moving sheep from the mine to some sheep habitat anywhere they need sheep.

The link to the article - check it out again.

The title states that the captured sheep are Nevada bound....

And I have a huge issue with shipping sheep out of Province at any time - it should either be done as relocation within the Province or increase resident opportunity.

The link to the article - check it out again.

The title states that the captured sheep are Nevada bound....

And I have a huge issue with shipping sheep out of Province at any time - it should either be done as relocation within the Province or increase resident opportunity.

Didn't Alberta trade some Bighorns for Turkeys years back?

Yes even out of province. 

There are "people" in Nevada.  There are "hunters" in Nevada.  They are all my "brothers" and I think we can spare some sheep for them.

The issue surrounding the possible change to the sheep hunting regulations is not simply about numbers of sheep.  So moving a dozen ewes and a couple young rams is not going to have much effect on it.

I don't think relocating large trophy rams to other areas in Alberta so hunters can shoot them is good option.  Just like I don't follow the release truck to pheasant release site so I can shoot a few "chickens" is a good idea.

So why is it Alberta`s issue that Nevada extirpated Bighorns from their range? I understand your congenial spirit - and if this was Elk - we could easily afford to give up some from the suffield base. But this is a very different situation I am afraid.

I could care less if it's a single ewe lamb moved. When there is a move to change regulation as to the health of our herd of Bighorns in this Province there should certainly not be any reduction in the population. How about we get a handle on what is going on - and develop some real data before we make any decisions of relocation.

And comparing pheasants to Bighorns is too much of a stretch to even discuss.

Your exactly right deerman people are having a very tough time distinguishing between overall population numbers and hunt able / mature ram numbers. Another big concern is why in some areas it's taking rams a year or two longer to reach legal length than in the past.

As well why not help other areas out. There are other animals that have been brought in to Alberta over the years and maybe down the road we will need help. Look pretty dumb on our part if we couldn't get that needed help because we were to greedy to help others.

Your exactly right deerman people are having a very tough time distinguishing between overall population numbers and hunt able / mature ram numbers. Another big concern is why in some areas it's taking rams a year or two longer to reach legal length than in the past.

As well why not help other areas out. There are other animals that have been brought in to Alberta over the years and maybe down the road we will need help. Look pretty dumb on our part if we couldn't get that needed help because we were to greedy to help others.

Interesting. Did we trade for these animals? And what were they. I recall goats coming, but I think they were at least canadian.

Your exactly right deerman people are having a very tough time distinguishing between overall population numbers and hunt able / mature ram numbers. Another big concern is why in some areas it's taking rams a year or two longer to reach legal length than in the past.

As well why not help other areas out. There are other animals that have been brought in to Alberta over the years and maybe down the road we will need help. Look pretty dumb on our part if we couldn't get that needed help because we were to greedy to help others.

Rams grow slower in some regions for various reasons, mostly due to feed, stress and weather.

I think you misunderstand the reason for the proposed change to sheep hunting rules.

It is NOT about the sheep population.

It IS about the numbers and ages of "trophy" or legal rams.

Moving a dozen ewes to an area in Alberta will do little to help ram numbers and ages.

I thought some one was going to sugest they move the big rams out to other areas in Alberta thus increasing the number of legal rams.  Which sound like a "put and take hunt" similar to stocked pheasants. (if you don't see an analogy there I'm sorry)

I don't think I misunderstand what is being suggested as a solution to a problem in age dynamics in the Bighorn herd at all.

I understand fully what is being sold - and a perusal of the Coltman paper suggests that there is a issue with large Ram recruitment. I do understand science - and in particular the difficulty in isolating variables within studies to develop sound and empirical evidence to drive policy.

I agree fully with 340 - where are the data to suggest (or even a theoretical model) that takes variables such as food/nutrient value, predator pressure, genetics, human pressure? That doesn't even take into consideration the dynamics at play given a herd of sheep that have been chased tagged and pestered beyond the normal scope.

I don't have an aversion to "helping" fellow sportsmen, I just do not believe it is our responsibility. As well I really don't believe we should be playing with the population of any sheep herd until we really get a handle on what i happening to manage them properly. I know there are areas in Alberta that could handle the addition of a few ewes as well.