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AxeMan

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Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« on: January 01, 2013, 02:29:13 PM »
I ran across this on another site. (Ice Shantey)  I am not sure what to make of it and the exact details but it seems to causing a stir in the hunting community.

It appears that 12 elk were killed in the name of sustenance hunting.  A lot of rumours are swirling over this event.  References by the hunting party to the "Idle No More" campaign.  Rumours that Manitoba conservation officers had to put down some remaining wounded elk.  Comments by some that this was uncalled for.  Some first nations people (same last name) commenting that the hunt was uncalled for.  (see youtube video comments down the page)

I was told that all public moose hunting opportunities have been closed in the Duck and Porcupine Mountains as they have been hunted out and now pressure on the elk is extreme.

It may be a totally legal hunt by first nations hunters as well as I said I do not know the exact details.  I am not looking for a crap storm over this but am just posting for awareness reasons.  This is a hunting board where hunting related stories are discussed.  I will keep my opinions to myself on this one though.




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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 02:41:04 PM »
I don't see any connection between slaughtering and "idle no more" or see how slaughtering will benefit their cause. I just see it creating contempt. Hey if they need it to eat then go ahead, but clearly this has nothing to do with sustenance most of that meat will probably go to waste.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2013, 02:49:14 PM »
Ya , that Riley Flett guy is sure a piece of work by linking his slaughter of 12 elk to the "Idle No More " thing.  It is certainly breeding contempt and it is working on me.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2013, 02:52:51 PM »
Hey Axeman, could you provide a link to that post, I'd like to go in and read it...thx!

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2013, 03:02:06 PM »
Hey Axeman, could you provide a link to that post, I'd like to go in and read it...thx!

This is where I first saw it Tuc.  This story is apparently going viral on facebook now.  I am not a big facebook user though.

http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=237218.0
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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2013, 03:25:36 PM »
Thanx, I was just on FB and see Paul has posted it and I shared it....it will get around.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 06:59:49 PM »
Good for them,, no really.. The more idiotic things they do the worse for them.. I hope they shoot 30 more.. The elk will re populate the damage to their reputation will last for generations..

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2013, 08:43:42 PM »
It sure is a small world...that is the area I grew up in many moons ago and continue to go back every year to spring bear hunt, anyway some of those names on the Youtube post don't surprise me... sustenance hunting my ass, what a joke! These same guys have been notorious for doing this kind of thing for years going into an area with reefer vans and filling them! The hunting for ungulates in that area has been totally destroyed by these "sustenance" hunters and no law enforcement ever gets involved, it's sickening. It needs to stop, the entire area is prime moose habitat and there are literally none left, won't be long and elk will be in the same state. I'm thankful I now live where I do.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 10:30:17 PM »
Just out of curiosity are those elk transplanted there or are they naturally occurring?

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 10:13:53 AM »
They're not transplanted.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 11:05:24 AM »
Just out of curiosity are those elk transplanted there or are they naturally occurring?

I'm pretty sure these and the ones at Porcupine are remenants of the prairie sub-species. These were kind of the last remenant herds caught up in these hills, not unlike the Elk Island herd.
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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 08:35:45 AM »
Update...........

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/province-probes-killing-of-12-elk-185513542.html

Interesting.  They lightly touched on the issue of unrestricted first nation hunting.  I understand its a tough subject but everyone needs to be a part of a proper wildlife management plan.  One group cannot be unrestricted and expect the plan to work.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 08:40:50 AM »
It just amazes me how people continue to lower the bar almost every single day.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 09:19:54 AM »
Interesting.  They lightly touched on the issue of unrestricted first nation hunting.  I understand its a tough subject but everyone needs to be a part of a proper wildlife management plan.  One group cannot be unrestricted and expect the plan to work.

Exactly!  And that means everybody.  Public lands mean public rules.  This is about wildlife conservation first and foremost. 

It almost appears in the article in the Winnipeg Fee Press that these elk may have been baited onto private land which muddies the waters somewhat.  Interesting to see if anything more becomes of this but I suspect that it will not.
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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2013, 10:06:35 AM »
Sadly nothing will be done, this kind of thing has been going on for years and the big game population has paid the price but now it's getting worse because the aboriginal population has grown to the point that they're no longer a minority and the increased hunting pressure takes it's toll. Management for ALL hunters is needed NOW or there is no future for hunting and that disturbs and saddens me. In an area like this with prime moose and deer habitat you can spend days in the bush without ever seeing one and that's just an indication of worse to come.

I'm not trying to be prejudiced towards anyone, it doesn't matter who is doing the harvesting there needs to be management or everyone will suffer.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2013, 12:11:02 PM »
There is no political will in this country to solve this. Maybe we should start a group called "we were never idle" and go block some roads and protest it? And believe me 99% of aboriginals will defend this type of hunting because this is their "traditional" way of harvesting, they have to feed all the old uncles and aunts on the reserve, so they need more.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2013, 10:10:12 PM »
Wow is all i have to say.  This does happen more often then you know.  Two years ago i was hunting north of Lloydminster and a family friend caught a two natives driving around and shooting deer out of the truck.  The uncle was driving and the nephew (who was 10) was in the box of the truck with a 22LR shooting deer.  Last i heard they had bagged 11 deer and who knows how many were fatally wounded.  They in the same year another family friend cause some natives riding around on quads at NIGHT shooting deer in the headlights with a 22lr and leaving the deer.  The group that was on quads ended up killing something like 23 deer before they got caught and all of it went to waste.  The P.O.S that take part in these sustenance hunts and this other bullshit that goes on are all the same in my opinion.  Complete greed and disrespect for wildlife and other hunters and outdoormen.

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2013, 01:00:11 PM »
The one thing that really baffles me with the pic is that there are a dozen dead elk and not one of them are field dressed????

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Re: Elk Slaughter Duck Mountain Manitoba December 2012
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2013, 01:27:42 PM »
No need to field dress them when you only keep the Backstrap and tenderloins,, the dogs will do the rest for themselves..