Author Topic: Government at it again (CWD)  (Read 1489 times)

waterfowler1969

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Government at it again (CWD)
« on: May 11, 2014, 04:28:43 PM »
They are trying this again.  Problem is they are only doing this bs on mature mule deer.  They are going to try and kill all 3 point or lager in about 10 different zones. After regular season is over and all animals are tested any positives they will go back and kill all animals in area.  This whole thing is full of misleading crap and straight out lies from SRD. Anybody in favor of this has no clue and needs to find other info other than from anybody in Alberta.  Alberta gov and Margo will lie and create false info just to get what they want.  Info is being put together as  SRD would not give out the  power point provided in this meeting.  Any AFGA member against this should voice there concerns as the person that sits in the agmag meeting an these other meeting is all for letting the slaughter happen again.  I and quite a few have been working quite hard to stop this from happening again.  Like I said on AO.  Provide proof that this will do anything.  It was already done and failed.  Here is a good read from James kroll. He has been dealing with this a lot longer than anybody in SRD and has lots of info stating Margo and SRD are wrong.  http://buckbreeders.com/articles/breaking-news-dr-kroll-releases-new-cwd-white-paper.  And another good read since sask in not doing anymore culls period.  http://www.healthywildlife.ca/tracking-deer-across-borders/

JIMMY 808

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Re: Government at it again (CWD)
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2014, 12:37:04 AM »
I can’t help but wonder if a mule Deer didn’t have antlers at all what this CWD issue would look like.     

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Re: Government at it again (CWD)
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2014, 07:37:06 AM »
I can’t help but wonder if a mule Deer didn’t have antlers at all what this CWD issue would look like.   

And what the attitude towards the controlled harvest would be eh,, I often wonder this myself.

I don't know,, lots of info on both sides on this, personally I can't see SRD out right lying,, being misled yes but I don't think they would out right lie.. There has to be some reasoning behind their control methods.

waterfowler1969

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Re: Government at it again (CWD)
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2014, 10:16:37 AM »
I can’t help but wonder if a mule Deer didn’t have antlers at all what this CWD issue would look like.   
it would be the same.  Margo would tell us some other theory. 

waterfowler1969

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Re: Government at it again (CWD)
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2014, 10:27:10 AM »
And what the attitude towards the controlled harvest would be eh,, I often wonder this myself.

I don't know,, lots of info on both sides on this, personally I can't see SRD out right lying,, being misled yes but I don't think they would out right lie.. There has to be some reasoning behind their control methods.
Srd has lied more than once already.  They tried putting mule deer on a draw by allowing crossbows to put things over the allotted 15%.  After that failed they fabricated numbers to justify it.  Crap like this has happened more than once.  Look at the whole sheep issue. Same thing.  In the end SRD can do what ever they want cause they have no backlash for the actions. So they act like god and do what ever they feel like doing.  I thought we lived in a democratic society so why is this shit happening with out our input? I for one have done all I can do at this time.  I have went to the government,lawyers to get an injunction started and will soon be going to the media, and all landowners in these 10 zones.   

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Re: Government at it again (CWD)
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2014, 05:52:15 PM »
I only know what I've read and what I've seen.  There's a real interesting ongoing article in that Ab htg magazine.  There's also an intriguing trailer for a documentary:  http://noaccidentfilm.com/

Then there's this: 

In my personal opinion, the first step would be to outlaw elk farms here, elk and deer farms in Sask.. Other than that I really am not sure what to think. 

As I've said in the past, over the years there's been a couple of deer I didn't shoot because they just didn't look, "right"  (meaning healthwise).  When I say that keep in mind I once shot a big doe that was faltered, her hooves were a good 6" long (you can bet your a$$ I scoped her from about 30 yds for a good half hour before I shot her).  I took her as she looked healthy but faltered and I figured it'd be kinder for her to be on my bbq than have her eaten alive by coyote's/wolves.  (she was delish by the way, all her internal organs looked great and there was no indications I could see of any problems other than maybe being a pig at the barley bin).

Personally if cwd is in fact fairly new and not just, "discovered" then if srd can, or has a very good chance of stopping the spread I say, "fill your boots".  It's about my great grandchildren.  When I say that keep in mind my personal, "honey hole" for deer is in 102(recently a cwd zone);  I've hunted that area pretty much every year since I was 16 and at any time of the year and time of day I can tell you EXACTLY where you'll find a 4 pt mulie, a 4-5 pt WT, WT does or mule does by the herd or individually.

Again, "if" the spread can be stopped I'd gladly but sadly give up my, "given" so my decendants can enjoy the same hunting I and my forbearers have.

Flip side is that there's seldom anything new under the sun and as I've mentioned before there's a pig disease that the prions' live in the ground;  I've been told of a farm that everyone in the area knows can never raise pigs again as it's been tried twice with the same diseased result.  I don't believe it's been, "discovered" yet.  Further about 25 yrs ago a buddy and I were diving in chin lake under the bridge, I saw a Gobi.  Call it what you want, I spent many winters diving in the caribean.  It was a Gobi.  I called Edmonton was told in a nice but very condescending way I was a liar.  A couple yrs ago I see it's been, "discovered" by someone with a gov't paycheck and a degree.

So I really don't know what to think.

Just my uneducated 2 cents.
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Re: Government at it again (CWD)
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2014, 07:20:19 PM »
I take a bit of a different stance on things when wildlife is in the need of culling.  If it is the direction of SRD to full out cull the mule deer off in these ten zones stop goofing around with hunters and fish and wildlife.  Get some professional shooters up from the states and nuke them.  There is a big difference between hunting deer and killing them. 
 
Having hunters involved in my eyes is only going to aid in the spreading of CWD.  After hunting season have a look in any gravel pit dead end road nearest cut line or ditch and have a look at all the bones.