I'm surprised someone with superior knowledge of wildlife and fish habitat has not come on to tell you its all propergander.

I'm surprised someone with superior knowledge of wildlife and fish habitat has not come on to tell you its all propergander.

Lets just leave to our career bureaucrats to worry about,, they will do stand up job on handling it.. They will have meetings across the country for 3 years sucking out of the public trough draining any funds put in the project. When the time comes to act they will cry there are no funds to help. More money will be put in. Then they will have more meetings to discuss when to allocate the process. By then the funds will be blown,, you get the idea..

In the end they will just shoot a bunch of animals and call it wildlife control lol..

Brain dead moronic process but hey it's working miracles.

Correct me if I'm wrong walleyes, but deerman the sad part is he's not joking and he's actually right about the whole "process" by which it will be handled and discussed LOL. Sad but true.....

Only funny because they believe they have control over what's happening....and thinking they're helping or making a difference

Correct me if I'm wrong walleyes, but deerman the sad part is he's not joking and he's actually right about the whole "process" by which it will be handled and discussed LOL. Sad but true.....

Only funny because they believe they have control over what's happening....and thinking they're helping or making a difference

It is his opinion and apparently you agree.

I guess I was hoping he was joking as I think his statements concerning "SRD"are absurd.

You also are allowed your opinion.

I think that people who support something don't often get up on a soap box to declare their support.  However people who are against something most often want to shout it to the world to hear.

There may be more people who think that F&W is trying the best they can to manage wildlife and fish, than you realize.


It would not bother me if someone came on here and said "I don't think F&W is doing a very good job of managing ....

But when people come on and say "Those ^%$$##$ don't know their &*^*& from a hole in the ground and couldn't manage a (*&&&* if their life depended on it" That is to me not expressing an opinion but something else.

I can see both points of view, for one thing it is not an easy job. And I don't think you would make a career out of it if you didn't believe you were doing things in best interest of the animals. Other the other had like so much in politics there seems to be zero accountability when things go bad. Ministers come and go but the beuracray stays the same. And that I believe is the biggest issue most have within the ESRD . While hunting and resident hunters are one of the largest components in game management in this province it seems we are the last to be consulted on issues and the first to be punished when things go south. Other then the one absolute anti hunting bio that was in charge of the Grizz count , I don't believe those within SRD intentionally make decisions detrimental to the animals. I believe that sometimes desicions are made without all the facts, statistics , and info. Ie the cull of a few years ago.

here is info on Moose

David
http://srd.alberta.ca/FishWildlife/WildlifeDiseases/ChronicWastingDisease/CWDUpdates/documents/CWDinMooseAlberta-InfoSheet-Feb2013.pdf

here is some more news

David

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Wyoming : Game and Fish Begins Study to Evaluate Chronic Wasting Disease Vaccine

 
Date: February 19, 2013
Source: Wyoming Game and Fish Department

 
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Eric Keszler (307) 777-4594


CHEYENNE - The Wyoming Game and Fish Department has begun a multi-year study at its Thorne-Williams Wildlife Research Unit (formerly Sybille) near Wheatland to evaluate the efficacy of a vaccine against chronic wasting disease.

Chronic wasting disease is a neurological disease of elk, deer, and moose. The disease appears to be invariably fatal to the animal, but it is not thought to affect humans.

The vaccine was developed in Canada by the Pan-Provincial Vaccine Enterprise (PREVENT), a partnership of three leading infectious disease centers. PREVENT works closely with academia, industry, government, and not-for-profit sectors to accelerate vaccine development so that promising vaccines can move readily into clinical development and production.

In January, researchers trapped 50 elk calves at Game and Fish’s South Park feedground (south of Jackson) and transported them to the research unit. There, calves were split into two groups. One group was vaccinated and one was an unvaccinated control group. “Previous research has demonstrated that elk will naturally contract chronic wasting disease by being housed at the unit,” said Game and Fish Chief Wildlife Veterinarian Dr. Terry Kreeger. “We predict that the vaccinated group will live longer than the control group. It’s important to understand that even if the vaccine does not provide lifelong protection from chronic wasting disease, every extra year of survival the vaccine provides will mean increased production in an affected population.”

The vaccine is administered by hand at the research unit, which would not be practical for vaccinating wild elk. However, if the vaccine is found to be effective, future research will focus on delivery methods more appropriate for wild elk, such as baits. At a minimum, an effective vaccine administered to elk raised on private ranches could greatly reduce the spread of the disease. Chronic wasting disease is thought to have been primarily spread throughout parts of the United States and Canada by the unintentional movement of infected deer and elk among private game ranches.

“We figured that research over time would start providing wildlife managers with tools that could be used to combat this disease,” said Kreeger. “This is just the start of a long journey to evaluate and perfect these tools.”

A parallel vaccine study is being conducted on deer in Colorado. 


 

WB , I don't want to rehash the mistakes made in the past hopefully something was learned from it. You touched on the oversight that since the problem stems from Sask that working in coordination with them would have been wise.  The worst thing was/is the way they left land owner relationships , not good. But that's all in the past, the thing they may have been the best as far as cwd goes but bad for the general deer herd was the tough 2010 winter.  At least Mother Nature thins the weak and unfit out of the herd, a blanket cull removes to many good genitic healthy animals.  Things are not real good here for the deer again in the east central zones, and that last storm will take its toll again here , as long as SRD isn't taking credit for Mother Nature taking its course .

From what I heard at the AF&GA conference there was some success during the "cull years" and there may be somewhat of a return to them.  A hard winter and high winter kill on deer in the east will be a good thing.

Sure it's a fine thing unless you live here , you guys really have no idea of the before and after  of all this. They were just getting back to some decent numbers and bam hit again. I'm sure if it were in your own stomping grounds you would have a much different view.