Here is a read from Colarado. Seems right in there management plan it states  "Reduce cwd prevelance within infected areas by removing Deer and elk from diseased herds" seems to me that would result in a cull in infected areas such as Alberta did, wouldn't it?

http://wildlife.state.co.us/hunting/biggame/cwd/Pages/CWDHome.aspx


A pretty good read on CWD from a few years ago.

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/10/6/03-1082_article.htm

I have to agree that the srd really doesn't know how to deal with this. I also believe that cwd has existed as long as deer have roamed the earth, naturally with increased populations there will be a higher incidence but it's doesnt mean it's more epidemic. .

evey time i hear that i just shake my head.  the cwd timeline shows quite clearly where it originated and how it spread.  mutations happen all the time....its called evolution.  on a microscopic scale, that can happen much faster than watching a mammoth turn into an elephant.

http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.timeline

the timeline also shows very clearly how this disease came to canada.  thanks game farmers for the lovely gift.   

lets throw out a big thanks to sci while we're at it.  if they didnt promote shooting tame animals and have a record book for it, there would be no market left for it and game farms would go away.  pet shoots are the only thing keeping them going.

I'm not going to claim to know it all or be an expert, but there were definitely mistakes made prior to and during the intial cull. The biggest mistake being not having sask involved as all we done was to open up more habitat for higher risk deer out of Sask to come into Alberta.




 I would also be as bold to state that one of the real reasons to put Muleys on draw is to force bow hunters east if they want a general tag, but that is purely speculation .

culls have never worked anywhere they have been tried.  srd tried it for two reasons.  first, they had no idea what else to do.  nothing has ever worked to slow stop or prevent cwd.  culls were the proven method for other diseases, but with bacterial or viral issues, you can kill the host and the disease dies with it.  prions persisting in the soil means that culls cant possibly work with this one.  and second, someone told me that they were experimenting trying to discover something that no other jurisdiction could because they felt they were jumping on it at an earlier stage.  when i say someone, i mean someone in the decision making process....not someone down at the local watering hole.

and as for archery draws.  cmon man....srd has some flawed calculations showing

Justin, first off I'm going to ask if you know how to write proper and that includes spelling too.



Question: Do you see other people belittleing your posts.

this is from another post, but deer are shittin pizzin and DROOLING alright....not druelling.


I can see it's just a matter of time before you get your azz punted out of here for good.

tuc you have made it pretty clear you have a personal problem with justin.  thats not the best thing from a mod.  if you are going to criticize spelling and grammar, you might want to get yours straight first, and then dont stop with singling out one poster either.  speckle and duffy have made a mountain of errors in that department in this thread as well, but you have chosen to single out one person.  last i checked, nobody here is a professional writer.  i figure as long as the words make sense, i can get by it.

and to be fair, justin should get his emotion under control too. justin, ive told you before, when you start pounding them keys, its time to step back and cool off.  your opinions are valid, but the manners need work. 

of course, its those things that drive the post count at this site.  this place is becoming known around the internet as the jerry springer forum.  topics like someones hunt reports and photos are lucky to get 3 replies, but when the fights get going a thread takes off.  its why so many good conributing members from elsewhere had a look here but left.  this forum has the roots to be a good place, but there has been so much juvenile behavior that many people were turned off.  id like to see things take a turn for the better.

Speckle55 for the win...

id have another look....that aint how i see it.

Funny Bambi and Justin keep bringing up Colarado but fail to say that CWD testing is minimal therr now with  cwd submissions being down 90% from 2002 so really what are their  numbers at compared to previous test years?

Actually I did read them Justin. The first link he posted I had already posted and has more detailed info if you look at more of the links(see below).  Second the map shows what they know but as I stated they have insuficiant data from the southern state to actually know if it's CWD free as the map states so really the map only shows half truths!! And it seems they are concerned with the submission drops as they are trying to do what they can to increase submissions again. And in the following link in which I got some info it states a couple zones that they have been testing male mule deer since 1996 are at a stable or increasing prevelence of CWD. You speak as of Colarado is a bit of a success but it doesn't look that way to me.

Oh and what was my previous stance on CWD? I'm not for just opening hundreds of tags in random zones. But in areas with out breaks I feel they need to do something and with no one knowing the true route to take culls  was a needed reaction. If they wouldn't have done anything and it spread guys would have cried too. The problem with SRD is they are never going to make decisions that make us all happy. But they do try. They don't want to kill everything off like some make it out.


http://wildlife.state.co.us/SiteCollectionDocuments/DOW/Hunting/BigGame/CWD/PDF/TestResults/CWDReport2010-2011.pdf

Dale/Justin here is a post #89 from Colorado's first link bottom of page .. notice they don,t say cull in the red sentence.. roflmao

David

Chronic Wasting Disease Management
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The Colorado Park and Wildlife’s disease management efforts are focused on:
Preventing the spread of chronic wasting disease beyond historically infected areas.
Reducing chronic wasting disease prevalence within infected areas by removing deer and elk from diseased herds.
Enforcing illegal feeding regulations and transport laws restricting the movement of deer, elk and moose from infected areas or into the state.
Continuing research in conjunction with other agencies and states to further knowledge to manage affected deer, elk and moose herds.

well well. You just found this? it does not say destroy half the state. also if they were killing everything there sure as hell would not be all these animals they have. LMAO how you take a piece and turn it in to so much more than it is...

Deer numbers are good Justin??

http://www.denverpost.com/outdoors/ci_20630849/colorado-among-states-struggling-stop-decline-mule-deer

http://www.cohunter.com/news/2012/aug/13/state-herds-mule-deer-update/

http://m.wyomingnews.com/articles/2011/08/14/news/01top_08-14-11.txt

Looks by population numbers in the next link numbers are declining to me!!

http://wildlife.state.co.us/hunting/biggame/statistics/Pages/Statistics.aspx

Yes I have read that numerous times. You also don't have asmany giant deer coming out of a state like they are unless numbers of deer are high.

I will find you some info darcy.

I'll wait for your statistical count numbers showing the population increases you quote and the reductions in CWD cases you state.

I know little about CWD but everything I can come up with shows that no one has a handle onto how to control things and that even the areas that have had the longest testing and management aren't doing much better than Alberta.