Environment, Economy, Politics.

[BruceW]

Well said!

It wasn't a, "protest vote" that elected them, they got around 40% of the popular vote and even now they're polling close to that range.
The majority of those who claimed to have voted for them in protest will vote the same next time.  The pcs/wildrose together got around 62% of the vote, the libs got 4%.

http://officialresults.elections.ab.ca/orResultsPGE.cfm?EventId=31

If you do a little research of population groups you, "think" likely voted for them you'll find a number in concert with the results.
Unless the wr and pcs unite in some way we Will see another ndp gov't.

[greylynx]

So Notley's approval rating is apparently not that bad at 31%.

Given that 1 in 4 Albertans are public servants of one form or another and a younger demographic who has been indoctrinated that the world is going to end if oil is not banned the number seems reasonable. 

[AxeMan]

Greylynx,

You put your comment in a quote from me.  You made it look like I said your comment. 
Not cool since your comment is not even factual.

Greylynx:  "Given that 1 in 4 Albertans are public servants of one form or another and a younger demographic who has been indoctrinated that the world is going to end if oil is not banned the number seems reasonable.   

I looked at statcan site.  Best I could come up with is 2011 data but I am sure the percentage has not changed that much.
2011 Alberta population = 3,645,257
2011 Alberta public sector employment in all forms = 346,520
That represents 9.5 %.  Not 1 in 4 (that would be 25%)

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/govt62e-eng.htm

[greylynx]

Greylynx,

You put your comment in a quote from me.  You made it look like I said your comment. 
Not cool since your comment is not even factual.

Greylynx:  "Given that 1 in 4 Albertans are public servants of one form or another and a younger demographic who has been indoctrinated that the world is going to end if oil is not banned the number seems reasonable.   

I looked at statcan site.  Best I could come up with is 2011 data but I am sure the percentage has not changed that much.
2011 Alberta population = 3,645,257
2011 Alberta public sector employment in all forms = 346,520
That represents 9.5 %.  Not 1 in 4 (that would be 25%)

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/govt62e-eng.htm

I'm sorry. Bad communication on my part. I was referring to the number you get when you add the entire column and divide by 3,645,257.

1,039,560/3,645,257 x 100 = 28.5%

What is really scary is how the pensions of these people are going to paid in the upcoming years.  I fear that will be a much greater problem than a carbon tax.

[AxeMan]

No, Greylynx.
You are adding the already summed totals to the individual breakdowns in categories.
346,520 is the total sum of the categories below it in the public sector.
Direct government (with sub breakdowns) = 333,832
Government business enterprises (with sub breakdowns) = 12,688
Total = 346,520

[greylynx]

And I just added everything up.

Thank you for showing me.

Cheers

[AxeMan]

   I will shed some light on the public sector pension statement later tonight.
The direct government future load on the tax payer is a problem but some of the local authority plans like LAPP are not in as bad of shape.
Some of the pension stuff and details are widely misunderstood by many looking in from the outside.

[OL_JR]

Well said!

It wasn't a, "protest vote" that elected them, they got around 40% of the popular vote and even now they're polling close to that range.
The majority of those who claimed to have voted for them in protest will vote the same next time.  The pcs/wildrose together got around 62% of the vote, the libs got 4%.

http://officialresults.elections.ab.ca/orResultsPGE.cfm?EventId=31

If you do a little research of population groups you, "think" likely voted for them you'll find a number in concert with the results.
Unless the wr and pcs unite in some way we Will see another ndp gov't.

       By the numbers pretty large majority government for a united right or right of centre (whatever the heck they want to call it). 

       And Edmonton sucks, just sayin.

[Walleyes]

http://boereport.com/2016/12/16/read-koch-oil-sands-operating-letter-to-aer-requesting-cancellation-of-sagd-project-due-to-regulations-and-carbon-tax/

[Walleyes]

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/lawrence-solomon-proof-that-a-new-ice-age-has-already-started-is-stronger-than-ever-and-we-couldnt-be-less-prepared

[unclebuck]

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/lawrence-solomon-proof-that-a-new-ice-age-has-already-started-is-stronger-than-ever-and-we-couldnt-be-less-prepared

Turdo & Nutley will call bs as their "climate change" ideologies do not allow them to arrive at any reasonable conclusions!!!

[sonny]

 

[Walleyes]

Liberals what can I say this says it all.

[LeverAction]

Good one Walleyes, and so true. Every time I deal with a Liberal, I just feel old and tired.

[BruceW]

Just a reminder fuel's going up around 11cents/litre on Jan. 1st.

Also keep in mind by the end of Jan. groceries and everything else will be up, including the cost of heating your house.  Wood and coal on the other hand will remain price constant, at least until everyone put's in a fireplace or stove.    

[Walleyes]

Just a reminder fuel's going up around 11cents/litre on Jan. 1st.

Also keep in mind by the end of Jan. groceries and everything else will be up, including the cost of heating your house.  Wood and coal on the other hand will remain price constant, at least until everyone put's in a fireplace or stove.   

http://boereport.com/2016/12/29/with-blueprints-done-notley-set-to-take-hammer-saw-to-alberta-economy-in-2017/

[AxeMan]

Shannon Phillip's is a very dangerous woman and holds great power as Environment Minister for the Provincial commies.  IMO of course.
Very dangerous!  A former Greenpeace nut.
She once co-wrote the introduction to a book called An Action a Day Keeps Global Capitalism Away with Greenpeace nutbar Mike Hudema.
Their words:  “The rich get richer while the Earth gets sicker, so kiss the back of my butt!”



Alberta will learn a very hard lesson before this huge mistake is realized.  It will take a very hard recession/depression to almost break the liberal/socialist takers in this province.
Ontario is experiencing their lesson right now as Wynne's policies are blowing up in their face.  How can the Alberta NDP not see that lesson?
It will be hard to watch the US thrive under Trump and drive Canada toward 3rd world status that the Federal Liberals and Provincial NDPs seem intent on with their economic plans.

Well Shannon, I won't berate you anymore because you would likely throw up the gender card and say people pick on you because you are woman like you have in the past. Since you said it first in writing to all of us, you can kiss my butt too.  Stick your carbon tax where the sun doesn't shine.  Enjoy your 4 year term while you can because you are history in the next election.
My opinion is based on your dangerous economic policies and has nothing to do with gender.  I have to say that because that gender card has been played too many times inappropriately by the NDP to deflect criticism of their policy.
Climate leadership being rammed down our throats is sickening already as you spend 10's of millions of dollars on TV ads to promote your own demise.  Ours too, unfortunately.
Shannon, mark my words, you will go down in history along side Alison Redford and Daniel Smith as politicians that refuse to listen to Albertan's and fail miserably with their selfish ideals.

I heard my NDP MLA saying yesterday on the news that we carbon tax detractors should put our swords down and get on board.  I will be challenging her to have a face to face meeting with me to discuss alternate less destructive ways to promote "social license" for pipelines and energy strategies for this province.  I honestly think this carbon tax is more about wealth re-distribution than anything else and that is a clear motive for the NDP and Shannon as echoed in her written words in that book: “The rich get richer while the Earth gets sicker, so kiss the back of my butt!”
Rebates only for the lower income folks, how is that fair or helping curb emissions if that is the real motive for the tax?  It is wealth re-distribution, plain and simple.  I won't even get into "climate change", that could be another huge rant on its own.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/braid-the-strange-path-of-shannon-phillips-how-to-back-greenpeace-and-save-capitalism
https://www.amazon.ca/Action-Day-Keeps-Global-Capitalism/dp/1896357903

[Walleyes]

Well written Axe.

[BruceW]

There's an almost never ending list of things the short sighted, ignorant, childish, zealot ndp haven't considered, for a tiny example:

1.  the trucks delivering and producing fuel are also paying the tax (the around 11 cents/l is my guesstimate of what the actual cost will be shortly)  sub eg;  the price of tires went up Jan1 due to this cash grab.

2.  Everything in a store came in on a truck, including groceries.

3.  In the real world electricity is produced in AB by coal and I believe natgas, both of which are taxed, so the cost of running anything on electricity will be going up, including the coolers, lights and heat in your local grocery store.

I tend to overestimate expenses, but that way I'm not caught short;  it's how small business survives.  My guess is expect to see around a 15% cost increase on a lot of things, including groceries.  I'm sure that's a little high, but I'm pretty sure it's not an out to lunch estimate either.

In other news I see the true believers are trying to claim polar bears are in danger of extinction - send money again.  It must be getting hard to keep up the scam.  Surely more people are starting to actually do some reading and learn this climate change crap is nothing but a scam?
Then again, the ndp and little justin got elected so maybe not.

We should start a pool to see how far the Cdn dollar will tank when Trump's economic policies start working. 

[BruceW]

^^^  Yes, I am that jaded.