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sonny · « **Reply #360 on:** March 17, 2017, 09:34:13 PM »

Sadly The PC has no candidate that really reaches out and grabs me.

Bernier...maybe..

Leitch...again maybe

O'Leary...I don't think so..

But whoever gets elected PC leader will have my support.

Trudeau has to go..

LeverAction · « **Reply #361 on:** March 18, 2017, 05:25:31 PM »

I'm thinking Bernier, O'Leary maybe as a finance minister. But in it for himself to much as always, we have that now in the Shinny Pony. I wish one of us Alberta RATS would run, I would vote for him, but I'm not sure if he would get all the HARD HAT votes.

AxeMan · « **Reply #362 on:** March 18, 2017, 06:10:24 PM »

Alberta - Unite the Right

Step 1 is complete. Kenney is elected as new APC leader.
Step 2 starts Monday when he will meet with Brian Jean.
Take note NDP, this is the beginning of the end for you.

http://www.630ched.com/2017/03/18/alberta-progressive-conservatives-pick-jason-kenney-as-new-leader/

Walleyes · « **Reply #363 on:** March 18, 2017, 06:11:17 PM »

Kenny is in, the rebuilding can slowly start. Now some work to do, get the Right united in a party and start laying the ground work for the next election.

Some good news for a change anyways.

http://boereport.com/2017/03/18/jason-kenney-wins-alberta-pc-leadership/

Lol I think we posted at the same time Axe.

AxeMan · « **Reply #364 on:** March 18, 2017, 06:15:59 PM »

Ya Walleyes, I guess we couldn't wait to celebrate.

Walleyes · « **Reply #365 on:** March 18, 2017, 06:34:25 PM »

Let's just hope they can make this thing work and throw personel egos aside and get the new party going. I don't like Brian's wording lately in stating the only way the new party will work is under the WR legal framework, I'm not to sure what that even means. I have written a letter the my MLA, Scott Cyr in regards to what this means. And a bit of a scathing letter I might add reminding them this is about the people and not the parties.

Personely I think Brian is scared to run against Kenny and he is fighting for his political life. He may as well conceded to Kenny and take a plush cabinet job and enjoy.

sonny · « **Reply #366 on:** March 18, 2017, 09:26:39 PM »

That's good news that Kenny won and I hope the right can unite with Jason at the helm.

Not saying anything bad about Brian Jean but I don't think he's the guy for the job.

greylynx · « **Reply #367 on:** March 19, 2017, 10:50:41 AM »

I wonder if there is going to be some "housecleaning" in the PC party with the new leader. There are people in PC party who simply do not belong there.
And these bad apples should be removed quickly to keep the rest in the barrel healthy.

AxeMan · « **Reply #368 on:** March 19, 2017, 11:07:12 AM »

Greylynx, that is exactly what I was thinking. They better clean house of the Liberals within. Start with Richard Starke who was adamant that a merger of the conservative parties could never work in principle or legally. He opposed everything that Jason Kenney said during his campaign. Starke even made a passionate Liberal speech at the convention on Saturday and was thoroughly booed!

"Delegates booed Starke during his speech earlier Saturday when he warned that a merger with the Wildrose could tar the PCs with the label of intolerance toward women and minorities."
http://www.630ched.com/2017/03/18/alberta-progressive-conservatives-pick-jason-kenney-as-new-leader/
That couldn't be more Liberal if he tried.

Kenney and Jean better realize that these Liberal influences must be punted immediately. Just watch Starke and some of these other losers start kissing ass and changing their tune now just to hang onto their jobs. This will be the first real test for Kenney and Jean to see if they can design the merger and nominate candidates that are not double crossing Liberal fakes like Richard Starke is. If they fail at this obvious reality then they and we are doomed.

AxeMan · « **Reply #369 on:** March 19, 2017, 12:38:37 PM »

Oh good, I see the old Alberta PC Liberals have a place to run to now. Great!
The Alberta Party and Greg Clark wants them:

http://www.630ched.com/2017/03/19/alberta-party-sees-membership-boost-with-pcaa-shift/

They can have all those snowflakes and they can wallow in their social agenda's like LGBTQ, immigrant rights, welfare, bla..bla..bla. They can split that vote with the NDP....perfect.

The right under Kenney and Jean can get on with the business of keeping us from becoming a third world mess.

unclebuck · « **Reply #370 on:** March 19, 2017, 02:11:55 PM »

The Stelmach & Redford "progressives" will definitely head for cover with the Alberta Party. They have probably bought memberships already and are planning a takeover!!!

Jean &/or Kenny will inherit financial chaos, low credit ratings, and have to manage the unbelievable debt that "dear leader " and her deputies dearest are putting us into, and will continue doing.

AxeMan · « **Reply #371 on:** March 19, 2017, 02:26:07 PM »

Jeez, just reading on other forums. It looks like many so "called conservatives" are willing to cut there nose off despite their face once again, just like last time.
Lots of fools claiming that they will not get behind the merger if Kenney is the leader no matter what. I don't care if it is Jean (preferred), Kenney, or even Fildebrandt(hopefully not).
Who the hell else would they vote for, NDP?

I'll bet it is these fools saying this stuff that were the ones that got Notley elected last time around. So many stupid voters out there....

Walleyes · « **Reply #372 on:** March 19, 2017, 09:00:18 PM »

Scott has taken the time to respond to my letter.

Thank you for sending me an email with your concerns and like you I don't
want to see another NDP government term after 2019.

It would be a true disappointment to see the two parties being prevented
from moving forward due to leadership egos. We will soon see if Brian Jean,
Jason Kenney and both Wildrose and PC Executive Committees are as eager to
unite as they have stated publicly. At the moment, it appears that both
parties members have spoken loudly through town halls held across Alberta by
Brian Jean for the Wildrose and the selecting Jason Kenney as the leader for
the PCs. Albertans want one conservative voice.

Should either side be disingenuous in their intentions I believe that they
will be moving in the opposite direction of members wishes and the members
will rein them in quickly. As we are both parties who are grassroots driven
our leadership must listen to their members. Period. It is my
understanding that both leaders have agreed to sit down tomorrow afternoon
to start discussions, therefore, it comes down to patiently waiting to see
what comes out Monday. This is a very good first step.

The party leaders have been tasked by the respective members to create a
better future for Alberta through discussion. It is important to remember
that they will find a lot of common ground as both have repeatedly affirmed
that they are looking to see Alberta return to conservative values (which is
commonly known as the "Alberta Advantage"). Just yesterday Brian Jean has
committed in a press released to "creating a single, principled,
consolidated, conservative movement" (see this link for more information
http://www.wildrose.ca/jean_congratulates_kenney_on_pc_leadership). I
believe both leaders will take their mandate seriously to ensure this is all
resolved well before the next fixed election date with one party as the
vision.

So at present we have achieved the first step, which is to get the party
leaders talking. Then with the lines of communication opened we will see
discussions move forward in a open and transparent method accountable to the
members towards unity.

If you have any further question, I encourage you to email me.

Have a great Sunday evening.

Scott

Scott Cyr, MLA
Bonnyville - Cold Lake

LeverAction · « **Reply #373 on:** March 20, 2017, 12:33:31 PM »

Can they get it together? Scary to think we have a win, win couple guys here, just to fall apart with in house "fighting". Hope they truly want the best for us and not just personal goals.

AxeMan · « **Reply #374 on:** March 20, 2017, 02:48:18 PM »

Fingers crossed guys. I think we have something to look forward to.
And good news is that all of the losers from the old PC party are jumping ship now that Kenney has taken the remnants of the PC party.
Thomas Lukaszuk is one loser that we will not miss.

http://www.630ched.com/2017/03/20/lukaszuk-walks-away-from-pc-alberta-party/

greylynx · « **Reply #375 on:** March 20, 2017, 06:49:06 PM »

The way I figure it is let us sit back and watch the Rodeo begin.

No donations no nothing until those guys get things figured out.

A little letter(s) to your "favourite politician" demanding what you and the family need to have a decent living....lower taxes et al. is also required.

Just like Walleyes does.

Thanks for the folks at Alberta Sportsman allowing me to post this message.

BruceW · « **Reply #376 on:** March 20, 2017, 07:38:11 PM »

Assuming there's a merger and preferably a new party formed I'll read the platform, the bylaws and the bible and then we'll see.

If it doesn't include rescinding bills 19, 24, 36 and 50 it's meet the new progressives, same as the old progressives far as I'm concerned.

I'm all about family, personal freedom and property rights. I don't care what they call themselves, they don't respect the above I'd rather vote dip and let'er burn. I'm done.

BTW, last I read the dips are still polling around election results numbers so the urbanite's and northerners who voted dip will likely do the same next time. (assuming one can believe polls, which quite frankly I doubt)

Walleyes · « **Reply #377 on:** March 20, 2017, 08:24:16 PM »

My conscience will never let me vote for a socialist party. I would rather die or die trying to prevent a communist government from taking over my country. Which given enough power the NDP would eventually go full communist in due time. Make no mistake about it, this infestation must be stopped in our country before it gains anymore steam, it's absolutely essential. There is more at stake here than just the name of a party and a few minor bills that may effect our personal goals. Yes they are important however we have to look at the big picture here. There's an ideology growing momentum out there that will be the end of the free life as we know it, does that not scare people,, it should !!

OL_JR · « **Reply #378 on:** March 20, 2017, 08:57:07 PM »

Fiscal conservatism. That is what I'm voting for next election, I hope they can get some sort of merger done.

Of all the problems my children are going to have to face as they become older and venture out in this screwed up world we live in, tax burden is going to be right near the top at this rate. Or maybe I should say tax oppression.
Whoever the new leader is of a united right wing party they better be fiscally conservative. I don't care if they are a swell guy/gal I just want work done to battle against this constant urge for government to take, borrow and spend.
Brian Jean would fit that bill well and I think he would be a great premier, however and I've said it before he is not the guy to win an election. That giant egg he laid at the last election debate was just sad to watch and I've listened to him a couple times during radio interviews and the guy just can not answer a question with any intelligence when thrown a curve ball. Might be the best premier this province would ever have but he never will be imho.

BruceW · « **Reply #379 on:** March 20, 2017, 10:04:20 PM »

Quote from: Walleyes on March 20, 2017, 08:24:16 PM

My conscience will never let me vote for a socialist party. I would rather die or die trying to prevent a communist government from taking over my country. There's an ideology growing momentum out there that will be the end of the free life as we know it, does that not scare people,, it should !!

I agree wholeheartedly, however the pc's in their current form brought in the above mentioned bills which are exactly what you are warning about.
That's why I want to see the merged party's platform and documents, 'cause right now the AB pc's are,as far as I'm concerned dips in disguise.

I was being facetious about voting dip.