Did you find the rings out of alignment much? they say if your using a 1 piece base you should lapp, as the "alignment" can play havoc with the sight in of the scope. But like you I'm a hunter not a sharp shooter, I seen the wheeler kit at Cabel's I think it was $179.00. I was close to buying it, then kind of snapped out of it and and told myself I have done without it for years with no problem. I want to sound cool around camp to, but I think it will take more then 179.00 bucks.