All the wildlife management surveys, plans, and draw system mean absolutely squat when this is allowed to happen by our government:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/moose-shot-killed-cold-lake-alberta-hunter-permission-1.3952303

Read the article.  So much wrong here even if you agree with native hunting rights, which I don't unless it is traditional methods on reserve land and has some regard for our conservation laws.
I guarantee that land owner is terrified of the repercussions if he was to make the official statement that permission was not granted.  The sad part is that F&W and the law require an individual to press the charges putting them at risk of retaliation.  These natives have so much pull that our courts do not dare open the can of worms with a charge.  Complete bs.

One more thing.  This is hard to wrap my head around: "One of the men who shot the moose then returned, Landry said. RCMP seized his rifle and ammunition. Landry said charges are pending for unauthorized possession of a firearm."  They were still allowed to take the moose. 

Walleyes, this was in your neck of the woods.  Hear anything about it?

No I never heard anything but I am up at work.

Like has already been said, no government agency will even touch this. It will be a complete waste of time, they know it, the Indians know it.

Subsistence hunting my arse.

Hunters and conservationists are up in arms over this story.
Why wouldn't they be, it is bs what some of these natives get away with.  Hunting private land after being turned down on permission and then wounding a bull moose and driving away.
The guy that was the first witness to this incident had a lot more to say about it on social media than what was in the CBC article too and it wasn't good..

Get this, makes my stomach turn!  AO moderator locks the thread on that site.

Sorry bud, but I am calling you out, he says this.

"Time to quit the ranting and bellyaching on BOTH sides of the fence."
Cat

Really?  I am so glad I do not post on that site anymore and that is great example of why I don't.  Censorship like this is rampant over there whenever the topic of native hunting comes up.  This is not native hunting though, it is bloody illegal when permission is turned down.  The only reason the landowner did not to provide an official statement was because he knew damn well that these natives would retaliate on him and likely the crown would only press trespass charges anyway.  If we the hunting community don't start at least standing up to this crap then the government certainly never will.  Way to go though, Cat, shut it down and lecture everyone.  You are also a member on here CAT, come and explain yourself.  I would love to debate you when you are not holding the hammer and I am!

Why do you think CAT shut down the thread?

The protocol on AO changed when the NDP went in.

And guess what happened to the "bad kitty" me?......Hello nice Alberta Sportsman members.

WHO pays for AO to exist?

HINT: Who publishes the game regulations?

Is it not the same people who own AO?

Moderator:
Please delete this message if it is incorrect.

P.S. CAT is a pretty nice guy.  I would have thought Rankin would do this.

P.S. What name is old greylynx posting on AO these days.  Come and find me.

The story is all over facebook as well. AO may have shut it down, but it is far from a dead topic elsewhere.

           Well this is going to be a pretty plain jane seen it before post but don't care.  The treaty rights need to go away.  It doesn't make any sense in this day and age.  It's doing more harm than good.  The indigenous look at the white man and feel they aren't getting their fair share so they ask for more. 
           I have a feeling these status hunters had to dig a little deep to go ask permission and when they were denied refused to take it like men and proceeded to act like the children this society has decided to raise. 
           Most dissapointed in the landowner.  Grab some dam balls.
           

The story is all over facebook as well. AO may have shut it down, but it is far from a dead topic elsewhere.

AO has a lot of members. The place could be a real advocate for gaining support and advocating change in Alberta if the guy running it was smart enough to manage it in such a way as to channel topics like this towards positive change. Unfortunately he's not intellectually capable. Very very weak.

I was talking to some guy at the Redwater Hotel.

Apparently he owns land off of Highway 63.

This guy told me he had some of our native brethren by marriage living as a neighbor on the next quarter section.

Apparently relatives from Caslan-northward would come an visit with their brand new SKS's.

Apparently during the night animals would be pushed out of the bush from adjoining quarters on to the native brethren's land for slaughter.

This guy was afraid for retribution against him. His house has been broken into twice since his neighbors discovered that he knew of his neighbor's nightly activities

This guy has an RCMP case number for proof if a government official wants to say his narrative is a lie.

I don't buy the whole intimidation thing, people breaking in and stealing yes they happens but it's not an intimidation thing it just comes with the neighbourhood. Same as this guy out in Cold Lake I don't buy it he didn't want to press charges because of retribution, I would say he just didn't want to be bothered with the whole issue, it's a couple dead moose as far as he's concerned what's the big deal. He's more than likely an old timer in the area and he's not as concerned about the issue as some of the newer acreage owners. Ive lived with natives my entire life and I've never felt intimidated by any of them, that's not the way it works, they're not a band of gangsters driving around looking to hurt people. The group that shot these moose were more than likely Frog members or Cold Lake members either way, not bad groups of people. For the most part they are hard working people just like you and I. Yes they took advantage of the law and shot these moose, yes that's to bad and it has to stop but until the laws change and they start to prosecute them it won't. I'll garuntee you if you and I were given these same liberties it wouldn't be much different, how many white guys shoot animals on land they aren't supposed to, happens every year and most are never charged either. They just get off with a warning. I've had deer shot 20 yards behind my shop next to the road and the only way to shoot at them was from the road pointed towards my house. When I heard the shot and went out there, two goofs from town. Gave them supreme shit gave them their darn fawn and booted them out. If would have been Indians would it have made any difference on social media maybe, not to me. Look I'm not defending these guys nor there actions just saying, they are only taking advantage of what's given them. Natives are natives they're no different than anyone else at the core again they're not a band of criminals driving around intimidating white people like the mob. Personely I find myself having more in common with local native people than I do city people, lots of good boys there, less criminals out there than there is in those cities, I'll garuntee you that.

They shoot lots back in there axe, lots of grazing leases around there. Most of the lease holders are pretty open to, come Nov the gates are left open and it's pretty much a go ahead thing so yah there's no doubt about it the natives take a whack of them around there.

624 is 2 miles south of my place, again lots of grazing leases in there as well as private land. I know most of the old land owners in there, trust me when I say them old dogs ain't scared of the natives lol. Like I said they just didn't want to be bothered with it all. They've lived with the natives in that country for many years and have got a long, a few moose isn't worth their bother. It's only something new to all the new acreage owners in the area not the old boys.

PS. I bet there were more moose poached by the local rednecks than those 4 moose shot by the natives lol.