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Sheriffs
« on: July 15, 2011, 01:01:56 PM »
I normally get along with RCMP and or city police. Why is it that sheriffs have to be at the other end of the spectrum? They are ignorant/ rude and think the world owes them something. Are they RCMP castoffs? Or do they just have something lodged where it shouldn't be? There, that feels better.

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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2011, 01:05:35 PM »
hey your not the only one... i think they can be kind of ignorant as well even after talking to them with the utmost respect   :( what can you do tho lol

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2011, 02:31:05 PM »
I shoot archery with 2 of them and an RCMP officer and they are great.  I believe people are more prone to make dumb ass comments like "is there a Tim Hortons around here" to a Sheriff than an RCMP officer.  Not sure if its a respect thing or what but I do know they seem to get a little more of that than an RCMP officer.  Reffering to them as RCMP castoffs could be part of the problem.  ;D Treat them with respect and they will be fine....hold off on the dumbass jokes (even if you are just trying to be nice) and you will get away with alot more.

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2011, 03:19:54 PM »
Sorry Weste,
 I don't make jokes like the ones you are referring too. I try to show respect to all of them. It just seems that the Sheriffs think they have something to prove. My RCMP castoffs comment  (the ones that don't "graduate" from Regina) was not meant to be a joke, it was a question.
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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2011, 03:31:14 PM »
Sorry Weste,
 I don't make jokes like the ones you are referring too. I try to show respect to all of them. It just seems that the Sheriffs think they have something to prove. My RCMP castoffs comment  (the ones that don't "graduate" from Regina) was not meant to be a joke, it was a question.

Didn't think you did make the comment but they do seem to get more of that than the RCMP officer we shoot with.  Anyway, the 2 i know are great.  One would let you go if you treat him with respect, the other will still give you the ticket (its his job as he says).  Probably just personalities.  Anyway, I haven't had to speak to an RCMP/Sheriff for over 10 years (other than the occasional checkstop) and I have never had an issue.  On Tim Horton's Camp day in June, the local sheriffs were serving coffees at the local stores as part of the promotion.  They were very personable and great to get along with.

Most become Sheriffs because of the policies of the RCMP to hire minorities and women over white males; not due to being a castoff.  But that's a whole other discussion.


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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2011, 03:48:44 PM »
Hey, I have an idea.

Let's elect our sheriffs and judges like in the States.

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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2011, 04:43:03 PM »
I have been fortunate enough to have never dealt with one so I can't comment, although I did have an incident around the Leduc overpass one November where one almost ran me off the road lol

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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2011, 11:51:09 AM »
I'd have to agree with geezle. And I think he's referring to them on the job and when they actually pull you over and not out doing a community event. I'm sure most of them are really nice people but most of the people I have talked to and heard their experiences most say they do feel they have more to prove so they are more pushy and go a lot more by the book.

Like one pulled me over once for a burnt out headlight literally a stones throw from my house and smelt beer on my breath and when he asked I didn't lie and said I had two beers. The last one about 45 minutes ago. So than he went to his car and checked my info and came back and told me he was letting me go for the light ( oh and I had the replacements in
My truck to put in the next day) but than he said he wanted to do a breathalyzer and I had my dad sitting right next to me and he just looked at him and said would you seriously think I would let my son drink and drive. Here's the receipt from the bar. He had 2 kokanee I had 5 bud. After that the officer just said have a nice day and I drove the 50 feet to
My driveway lol. In my mind that is just looking for a excuse to to be a dick. Should have been as simple as pulling me over for a burnt out bulb. Seeing the replacement and questioning the alcohol and saying have a nice day

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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2011, 12:50:54 PM »
you are correct pikefisher :). I do mean on the job, as I haven't knowingly spoke to any sheriffs out of uniform.

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2011, 07:37:09 PM »
I have been pulled over by both and I would say that the Sheriff's do seem to have a chip on their shoulder. They seem to act more like prison guards than police officers.

I have been pulled over by at least a dozen RCMP over the last 20 years for speeding and they have ALL been very easy to get along with. Most will laugh at the odd joke: "jebus,I sure wish I had remembered my 'get out of jail free' card today!" The Sheriff's are not amused. When I am asked "Do you know how fast you were going?" I am always honest regardless of the speed I was going, and mention that, to try and bullshit them would be insulting.

I would say that I am given a warning by the RCMP at least 1/3 of the time. Another 1/3 I am given a reduced charge or "charged as owner of vehicle" so that no points are given which would affect my insurance. The other 1/3 of the time,I get the full ticket and that's fine since I know the risks of speeding and cannot fault or blame someone else for my actions. I have NEVER been given any sort of break from a Sheriff.
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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2011, 08:20:37 PM »
NHO,
 that is exactly what I am talking about.
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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2011, 10:18:04 PM »
I've never been pulled over by the sheriffs either, so I cannot comment
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 10:43:13 AM »

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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 01:50:21 PM »
Exactly what is the sherrif's purpose in life, anyway?

I assumed we (Alberta) we're going to give the rcmp the permanent boot and the sherrif's would become the AB police force, one that answers to elected Albertans, not Ottawa politicians.

But, since quit before he's booted Ed stupidly signed another, ridiculously long contract with the Ottawa police can anyone tell my why we even have these sherrifs?

And, if it's because the rc's are, "too busy" to do their job, then why are they still here?

I don't get it.

I've never had any real problems with either and have never been stopped by a sherrif, but have noticed a decided lower quality in the rcmp's younger members(attitude wise) from days gone by.  Not sure if it's just a reflection on our society in general or their training has gone wrong somehow.


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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 03:14:13 PM »
but have noticed a decided lower quality in the rcmp's younger members(attitude wise) from days gone by

I think most Canadians have noticed this.

My neighbor is a very senior RCMP member, white shirt type, I won't mention names or anything, but he told me he is frustrated because there are 2 or 3 members he wants to fire and the red tape and politics won't allow him to do it.

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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2011, 05:48:41 PM »
Exactly what is the sherrif's purpose in life, anyway?


I think it was so that the better trained RCMP didn't have to spend the time giving out seat belt tickets and instead focus on stopping real crime like murder, robbery ect. Not sure if it's working but there pulling in lots of money from all the fines.

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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2011, 12:54:52 AM »
I have seen lots of Sherrif's on the road, but have never been pulled over by one.  (Yes, I am knocking on wood right now!)  The presence from the RCMP on a lot of roads and highways was quite lax, and I feel the culture here in Alberta has led to a lot of speeding on our roads.  If you want to go more than 10 percent over, be prepared to deal with the concequenses.  I have never had any problems or much attitude with RCMP as I never try bs them, and am always respectful.  Own up to exactly what you did from the start and you are way more likely to have them go easier on you, or even not ticket you and let you go with a warning.  if you have a chip on your shoulder, they will definately have one on theirs. 


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Re: Sheriffs
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2011, 11:49:57 AM »
Once you get past the raping, pillaging, and the baby eating they're actually not that bad, they're just normal guys doing a job.