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unclebuck

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Why we hunt coyotes
« on: January 05, 2014, 04:44:21 AM »
The Sierra Club and the U. S. Forest Service were presenting an alternative to the Wyoming ranchers for controlling the coyote population.

It seems that after years of the ranchers using the tried and true method of shooting or trapping the predators, the Sierra Club had a "more humane" solution to this issue.

What they were proposing was for the animals to be captured alive. The males would then be castrated and let loose again.

This was ACTUALLY proposed by the Sierra Club and by the U. S. Forest Service.  All of the ranchers thought about this amazing idea for a couple of minutes.

Finally an old fellow wearing a big cowboy hat in the back of the conference room stood up, tipped his hat back and said,
"Son, I don't think you understand our problem here. These coyotes ain't ******* our sheep; they're eatin' 'em!"
The meeting never really got back to order.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2014, 04:45:57 AM by unclebuck »

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 07:25:16 AM »

LOL

Not all cowboys are "lacking in understanding".  But in this story the point of the coyote control went right over the cowboy's head.

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 09:06:03 AM »
Good one Rick..

Don't think the moral of the story is that it went over the cowboys head,, the moral of the story is,, keep things basic and do what works. Something government agencies will ever figure out..

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2014, 09:41:15 AM »
LOL  You can't fool them old cowboys!

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 10:49:37 AM »

A healthy "intact" pair of coyotes lives in their territory and produces a litter of pups.  Lets say 3 pups and 2 adults.  5 coyotes are going to need a lot of meat to eat.

A healthy pair of coyotes, where one or both are sterilized, does not produce any pups.  2 coyotes are going to eat less than 5.  If left alone this situation could go on for some time.  If you shoot one or both od these coyotes, others move in to take over the territory and you are back to the first situation.

In the first situation, if you shoot one or both coyotes, others will move in to take that territory and rase pups.

Not all "old cowboys" are short on math and logic skills.  But I guess some are.


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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 12:59:28 PM »
Really old joke, but definitely a good one.  What's even funnier though, is that a couple of idiots, like walleyes and duffy, will actually start an arguement over it!!  LMFAO!!

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 02:31:23 PM »
Barnvdeedle,  no name calling.

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 03:36:18 PM »
Really old joke, but definitely a good one.  What's even funnier though, is that a couple of idiots, like walleyes and duffy, will actually start an arguement over it!!  LMFAO!!


You don't know the difference between an "argument" and a difference of opinion?  I see you are new here.  We don't always agree on things here on this site but we try to refrain from calling each other names over it.  You will learn that lesson I reckon.

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 04:26:35 PM »
A healthy "intact" pair of coyotes lives in their territory and produces a litter of pups.  Lets say 3 pups and 2 adults.  5 coyotes are going to need a lot of meat to eat.

A healthy pair of coyotes, where one or both are sterilized, does not produce any pups.  2 coyotes are going to eat less than 5.  If left alone this situation could go on for some time.  If you shoot one or both od these coyotes, others move in to take over the territory and you are back to the first situation.

In the first situation, if you shoot one or both coyotes, others will move in to take that territory and rase pups.

Not all "old cowboys" are short on math and logic skills.  But I guess some are.

Now now Duffy,, don't get logic and real science mixed up here lol..

The old cowboy in my eyes had the logic,, the Sierra Club is using science. The sad thing is,, the government and the Sierra Club probably did a joint venture and spent 3.5 million dollars on a study to come up with their findings. The old cowboy just had to live a little and use common sense to come up with his scenario..

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 04:49:46 PM »
A healthy "intact" pair of coyotes lives in their territory and produces a litter of pups.  Lets say 3 pups and 2 adults.  5 coyotes are going to need a lot of meat to eat.

A healthy pair of coyotes, where one or both are sterilized, does not produce any pups.  2 coyotes are going to eat less than 5.  If left alone this situation could go on for some time.  If you shoot one or both od these coyotes, others move in to take over the territory and you are back to the first situation.

In the first situation, if you shoot one or both coyotes, others will move in to take that territory and rase pups.

Not all "old cowboys" are short on math and logic skills.  But I guess some are.

so you are advocating sterilizing wild animals as a means of population control?

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 07:32:02 PM »
Or you could shoot their balls off , just sayin.
If you are too busy to hunt , you are too busy.

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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 07:56:49 PM »
Or you could shoot their balls off , just sayin.

Best post in this thread.. ;D

Tuc

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 08:06:41 PM »
Goodness Gracious, Great balls on fire!  lol

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 08:17:40 PM »
so you are advocating sterilizing wild animals as a means of population control?


Not really advocating anything.  Except perhaps that sometimes what seems like "common sense" and an "obvious solution" is often not.

In the original "story" the cowboy was missing the idea of the proposed activity.  All he could see was the sterilization (castration) of the coyote and all he could see from that was the concept of the coyote screwing his sheep. 

The ultimate results of the activity went over his head.  He could not or would not think outside the box.


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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2014, 08:20:51 AM »

Not really advocating anything.  Except perhaps that sometimes what seems like "common sense" and an "obvious solution" is often not.

In the original "story" the cowboy was missing the idea of the proposed activity.  All he could see was the sterilization (castration) of the coyote and all he could see from that was the concept of the coyote screwing his sheep. 

The ultimate results of the activity went over his head.  He could not or would not think outside the box.


No..... the original cowboy didn't see the coyotes screwing his sheep, he saw a castrated coyote still needing to eat.  Castrated coyotes still eat more than dead coyotes I reckon.  I don't think sterilization of males will have any effect on the population as the females will still come into heat and there will be an intact male around somewhere to fill the void.

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2014, 11:03:50 PM »
You would think this logic would hit home with just about everyone,, but I guess not !!

Not to mention the man power and expense surrounding the effort to castrate these useless vermin,, could you even imagine taking the time to do this lol.. My goodness,, only a Liberal boys, only a Liberal..

And you would think looking out the window that the world is flat wouldn't you?  But it is really fairly round (spherical) isn't it.  You do agree the world is round don't you or is that too much science for you?

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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2014, 08:39:58 AM »
And you would think looking out the window that the world is flat wouldn't you?  But it is really fairly round (spherical) isn't it.  You do agree the world is round don't you or is that too much science for you?

Actually,, the scientists of the day insisted the world was flat,, it took a sailor to prove them wrong..

Remember,, an engineer built the Titanic, a carpenter built the Ark !!

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2014, 10:24:23 AM »
Duffy, why cant you just let "a joke be a joke", and a "snowman be a snowman"?

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2014, 01:23:42 PM »

You are right, a snowman is just a snowman and has nothing to do with Christmas.

And the joke is just a joke and has nothing to do with "Why we hunt coyotes".

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Re: Why we hunt coyotes
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2014, 03:39:27 PM »
Snowmen have everything to do with christmas, and in the joke we hunt the coyotes that eat the sheep.