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Been neglecting my river fishing...
« on: July 22, 2012, 01:47:16 PM »
Well, this year I haven't had as much time to play out on the NSR as I did last year...and now that I've got a motor rockin' on my tinner, I've been hitting up a couple lakes when I have the time. 

Well a few days ago I decided to hit the river for a few hours after work, and finally hooked into my first sturgeon of the season.  I launched my bait out and put a bell on my rod, and turned my back on it to grab something from the Jeep.  I heard the bell ring, and thought my weight was still settling, but when I looked at the rod, I knew right away that something was checking out my bait, so I grabbed the rod and set the hook, and it felt like I set it into a freakin' log!  From there the game was on.  The fight definitely took more than 5 minutes, but probably less than 10, and the fish took several good runs and peeled a lot of line off my reel before I was able to get it in.  Good times!  Now I've *really* gotta start putting more time into fishing the NSR again!  8)








Just puttin' it out there...

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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 09:29:09 PM »
Nice sturg Geez. Are those things any good eating?

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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 08:36:48 AM »
Great fish!

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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 08:52:13 AM »
Nice sturg Geez. Are those things any good eating?

That sounds like a loaded question!

Keeping one here would be horribly horribly illegal.  That being said, I've heard from a couple people that have eaten sturgeon meat in places that you're allowed to harvest them that sturgeon meat is very good.  I believe the biggest thing people are typically after with sturgeon though, is their roe, which is apparently quite the big deal. 

I heard on that 'other forum' about a guy who caught a sturgeon, cut it open, took the roe, and then tossed the now dead fish back in the water.  Apparently he got busted, but from there I don't know what happened.
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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 11:14:20 AM »
Nice Fish!!

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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 04:02:06 PM »
lol the roe in white sturgeon is one of the finest quality caviar canada has to offer. the the top quality kinds are one from white sturgeon and the other is from steelhead. lake sturgeon like the ones found in the NSR have very very bitter roe so its no where near as good. i was at the gfs foodshow and learnt all about it. if you have a strong stomach and are interested in weird tastes check it out it was crazy informative.

on a side note jay thats an awesome fish! im taking a wild guess on the spot where your at and ima have to attempt it again!

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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 08:51:47 AM »
Yep Josh, you know the spot.  Word on the street is that it's been producing recently.  Sadly I haven't had time to head down there again since I got out last week.

If you do head down there let me know and I'll see what I can do to join you. 
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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 04:05:36 PM »
 Nice Poisson !!
 I will send you the invoice for the photography....lol...
On a more serious note the fish was handled with the extreme care and was well rested before it was released.
   Well Done Jay
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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2012, 04:16:25 PM »
That spot is pretty good , Ive been taking clients out fishing July and August and doing not so bad . Due to confideniality upon some clients not wanting photos posted , I won t go about doing that but we were out Thurdsay and hooked into into a few but werent able to land them due to not following direction , trying to horse in a 30 + fish isnt easy and 80 lb braid went PLINK .

But heres a few pictures off my site . http://www.bbjtackleandfishingadventures.com/clientphotos.htm

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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 09:39:27 AM »
That spot is pretty good , Ive been taking clients out fishing July and August and doing not so bad . Due to confideniality upon some clients not wanting photos posted , I won t go about doing that but we were out Thurdsay and hooked into into a few but werent able to land them due to not following direction , trying to horse in a 30 + fish isnt easy and 80 lb braid went PLINK .

But heres a few pictures off my site . http://www.bbjtackleandfishingadventures.com/clientphotos.htm

Now that kind of pisses me off on a few different levels.  Are you not setting up YOUR clients with proper leaders sized to your main line for targeting Sturgeon?  Also, the drag must be grossly miss-adjusted on the reels if you are snapping 80 lb braid.  It is a shitty deal for a sturgeon to be dragging around a length of 80 lb braid attached to it's mouth and if it gets snagged up it could die.  BBJ, I know that you know better and you should be lecturing your clients if they are pulling off this kind of BS.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2012, 04:55:24 PM »
Now that kind of pisses me off on a few different levels.  Are you not setting up YOUR clients with proper leaders sized to your main line for targeting Sturgeon?  Also, the drag must be grossly miss-adjusted on the reels if you are snapping 80 lb braid.  It is a shitty deal for a sturgeon to be dragging around a length of 80 lb braid attached to it's mouth and if it gets snagged up it could die.  BBJ, I know that you know better and you should be lecturing your clients if they are pulling off this kind of BS.
Axeman this is a valid point you bring. Why are fishermen have to use line so heavy ?
The broken off line will get caught on log and other debris in the river snagging the fish so it cannot move.
 I have been using 8 lb test line and with enough patients you can reel in the bigger ones. I remember you showing me a pic of a sturgeon that you caught with 10 lb test line. That fish was estimated around 30 lbs. A  mono bait line that is rated for the average size of the fish you catch works quite well.
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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2012, 11:19:48 PM »
Now that kind of pisses me off on a few different levels.  Are you not setting up YOUR clients with proper leaders sized to your main line for targeting Sturgeon?  Also, the drag must be grossly miss-adjusted on the reels if you are snapping 80 lb braid.  It is a shitty deal for a sturgeon to be dragging around a length of 80 lb braid attached to it's mouth and if it gets snagged up it could die.  BBJ, I know that you know better and you should be lecturing your clients if they are pulling off this kind of BS.

i too agree... arent we supposed to be protecting this species?  the thing is anyone who pays for a guide prolly also does not know what and how to setup to catch a sturgeon... their guide sets up their rig and are told here is your rod now fish... the drag is very misadjusted if 80 lb braid snapped... how many 80lb sturgeon have you seen in the NSR?  is there a need for parachute cable to fish with? gotta get paid tho and that doesnt happen if you have a poor landing rate

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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2012, 04:52:11 PM »
you guys cant rip on him man. i used to work where i saw a hundred customers a day going for the same fish and never once would they use the same method. if thats how bbj catches sturgeon so be it. i use probably 5-6 diffrent lines and anywhere from 3lb-35lb test. some people call that overkill others call it risky. if its how he catches fish and it works whatever. if you think of the NSR theres alot worse in there then loose line. i can probably rip on all of you to for something you fish with or a tactic you use that i dont agree with but i wont. so 80lb test line on sturgeon can easily be justified by the fact that there are sturgeon in there over 80lbs not many but its very possible. so bbj good fishing man and too everyone else good fishing aswell.

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2012, 10:40:51 PM »
you guys cant rip on him man. i used to work where i saw a hundred customers a day going for the same fish and never once would they use the same method. if thats how bbj catches sturgeon so be it. i use probably 5-6 diffrent lines and anywhere from 3lb-35lb test. some people call that overkill others call it risky. if its how he catches fish and it works whatever. if you think of the NSR theres alot worse in there then loose line. i can probably rip on all of you to for something you fish with or a tactic you use that i dont agree with but i wont. so 80lb test line on sturgeon can easily be justified by the fact that there are sturgeon in there over 80lbs not many but its very possible. so bbj good fishing man and too everyone else good fishing aswell.

You totally missed the point, Josh.  Re read the threads.  Proper sturgeon rigs are set up with a leader that is lighter than the main line.  John, Jay, and all the guys that target sturgeon know this.  Perhaps John's clients were just not following his lead that day.

Josh, save your amateur comments, a few of us on here have been around the block, and caught many hundreds of NSR fish for longer than you have been alive, okay.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2012, 08:40:10 AM »
hey man i didnt mean anything bad by what i said. all i mean is everyone has their own way for fishing for certain fish. their own little tips and tactics that make the day successful. i wouldnt call me an amateur man ive beat my way around the bush aswell and although im young i give many older anglers a run for their money. i know how to fish for sturgeon thanks and id appreciate to be talked to like and equal. people could learn a thing or two from a young buck like me :P 

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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2012, 11:01:22 AM »
Josh, if you knew how to fish for sturgeon and cared about it enough, you would see my point about assembling a proper sturgeon rig.  We don't need broken off fish trailing a whole lot of spare line.  Sturgeon are a powerful fish in the current and snags are a huge problem in the NSR.  Break offs are going to happen.  With a proper sized leader to a heavier main line, the break off results in less possible mortality to the sturgeon.  80 pound line is fine but you sure as hell better not be snapping that main line on a regular basis.  I want these fish to survive so I can catch and release them too.

Do it it your way though, your the man.  You came on here with an attitude while avoiding the true subject at hand (proper sized leaders to main line).  I will talk to you as an equal when you can talk about the subject at hand and not get all pissy about tips and tricks and how we could learn from a young buck like you.  I said your comment was amateur, not you, and I will stand by that.  If you are using 3 lb test line in the NSR, I rest my case.

Sorry Jay, about your thread.  I am sure you will agree on the need for a properly set up sturgeon rig.
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2012, 01:41:41 PM »
man where are you getting that i being pissy? im not pissy at all just stating. i fish with jay and i learnt from him thanks and ive caught sturgeon although never landed i have caught them. i understand a proper rig is needed but your rig my rig jays rig and bbjs are still probably all different right? personally i dont use 3lb test in river i just stated i use different line sizes for what im after as every fisherman does. im all about the preservation of albertas fish and i know what im talking about. personally i use 35lb sufix and no leader. a slip weight system and a direct hook setup. i understand that loose line in the river especially hooked up on a fish is dangerous. but thats a problem in every lake, stream,and  river that man has fished. so dont judge what he uses or what i use because break offs happen snapped line loose rigs lost hooks are EVERYWHERE in EVERY body if water.

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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2012, 01:50:54 PM »
 :-X  Good luck.
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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2012, 01:52:47 PM »
you too buddy...

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Re: Been neglecting my river fishing...
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2012, 04:55:42 PM »
man where are you getting that i being pissy? im not pissy at all just stating. i fish with jay and i learnt from him thanks and ive caught sturgeon although never landed i have caught them. i understand a proper rig is needed but your rig my rig jays rig and bbjs are still probably all different right? personally i dont use 3lb test in river i just stated i use different line sizes for what im after as every fisherman does. I am all about the preservation of alberta's fish and i know what I am talking about. personally i use 35 lb sufix and no leader. a slip weight system and a direct hook setup. i understand that loose line in the river especially hooked up on a fish is dangerous. but thats a problem in every lake, stream,and  river that man has fished. so don't judge what he uses or what i use because break offs happen snapped line loose rigs lost hooks are EVERYWHERE in EVERY body if water.
You have still missed the point Axeman has made. Why is there a need to fish with 80 lb braided line and have a sturgeon get caught in debris in the river. A tippet of reduced size made of line that will easily break is all that is required for the catching fish. The trouble with braided line is that it is hard to break. The point raised is valid one. Sturgeon need to be preserved for future fishermen and fisherwomen.
 I would hope that somebody who guides people for fishing would set an example for there clients.
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