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Matapatapa

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Beginner-No idea what to do.
« on: August 05, 2014, 04:45:40 PM »
Hello all, first timer here.

Staight to the point then.
I recently got into fishing, and live in the Lacombe-Red deer area.

Going to youtube for guidence resulted in very, mixed information, so i just went out and brought a general purpose set of equipment for most of AB fish. or so id like to believe.

The list is as follows
a Shimano rod, 6-15 mono light support, 6'6" power pro 10-20lb , lure wt 1/4 to 3/4 oz and its a medium action fast rod.
10 and 15 pound mono line on sale for 3 CDN each
a rapala halo 3500 spinner reel, it supports 14-16- and 20 lb line, or at least that is what it said on the reel. the box said 10-15lb.

and a value pack of hooks of many sizes, some round bobbers, a variety of lead splitshot, some rubber lures , a spinner lure with a treble hook the width of which is 6/10 the length of the furthest/fingertip joint of my middle finger, roughly 1.5  cm i believe, and some powerbait.

now on what to do and how to do it, i really dont know. trout seem like a good option, and i have the len thompson fish pond close by, but im very unsure of what setup to use, and what times to go at.

if it helps, ive fished only twice before. once in minnisota, with a push button rod, i dident catch anything except a baby bluefin with the help of a nice old man, which had to be put back. And once in Scotland, where i tawled on a boat and got a small brown trout for my troubles.

so, i want to fish in alberta, i have some sort of setup, and i have no boat, and no clue what to do. any help?

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Re: Beginner-No idea what to do.
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2014, 11:22:43 PM »
Well the first question is what species of fish you are after?

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Re: Beginner-No idea what to do.
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 02:25:13 AM »
From what i can figure out, going for trout ( i dont know which subspecies resides where, so ill go out on a limb and say just trout ), perch and pike seem to be common target game for anglers, and relatively common in my area. There has not been a lake sign with fishing info on it that excludes trout or pike that i have visited.

So....tentatively ill say i want trout,perch and pike.

But once again i do not know the specifics of any one, from a anglers perspective which one/ones will be the best to go after first, and the easiest.   
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 02:33:41 AM by Matapatapa »

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Re: Beginner-No idea what to do.
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 02:55:16 PM »
From what i can figure out, going for trout ( i dont know which subspecies resides where, so ill go out on a limb and say just trout ), perch and pike seem to be common target game for anglers, and relatively common in my area. There has not been a lake sign with fishing info on it that excludes trout or pike that i have visited.

So....tentatively ill say i want trout,perch and pike.

But once again i do not know the specifics of any one, from a anglers perspective which one/ones will be the best to go after first, and the easiest.
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Re: Beginner-No idea what to do.
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 03:57:40 PM »
Thanks for the tidbit, but not exactly what i was looking for.
Ill make this clear and concise.

Fishing from shore, with the equipment list above.
What setup do i create for pike,perch and trout. all from shore. if you could post a picture of the lure/bait setup you are using, and some guidelines on how to "present" it as anglers say to the fish, ill be grateful.

( oh, and some fourms say not to use too heavy line on lighter fish as they can see it. so for stocked trout etc, can i put a lighter line on a heavier reel? im a bit streched for money as ive spent it all on my current setup ( somewhere just about 110 CDN for the lot) , so all ill be buying is more lures/bait etc if you decide thats what i need.

(As a small addendum, and a admittance to my almost complete ignorance toward fishing, it turns out  the suspicious  pointy bit on the handle , was because i bought a baitcasting rod. and i have a spinning reel on it. *Facepalm* . I dont know if i can fish with this setup, but it seems that i can get away with it with small fish, and anything big will snap the rod. )
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 06:54:50 PM by Matapatapa »

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Re: Beginner-No idea what to do.
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 10:24:46 PM »
What setup do i create for pike,perch and trout. all from shore. if you could post a picture of the lure/bait setup you are using, and some guidelines on how to "present" it as anglers say to the fish, ill be grateful.

You generally setup for the species, there is no general setup for pike perch and trout. Pike from shore can be had in most pike lakes, usually in the spring and fall, when the water is still cold, you would generally cast a spoon for pike. Perch can be difficult from shore, especially this time of year, you are better off with a boat or to ice fish for them. Rainbow trout can be fished from shore either with a fly rod, or a bobber and bait, if it's allowed in the water you are fishing, but again when the water gets warm they tend to move deeper. Brown trout can be fished from shore in rivers and streams, usually with a fly rod, if you don't have a fly rod you can still use flies with a casting rod, light line, and a couple of split shot sinkers. Again check the regulations for where you are fishing, especially where the use of bait is concerned. Honestly this is probably the worst time of the year for shore fishing, if you are close to a river that allows bait set up a pickeral rig with minnows and weights and you can probably catch some pike or walleye like that.

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Re: Beginner-No idea what to do.
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 12:19:46 AM »
Fishing is not something you can teach in a minute.  It takes some research, practice and a small (ever increasing) amount of skill.  I have posted videos on a bunch of Alberta lakes and fishing for walleye, perch, pike, trout, grayling and lake trout during the different seasons.  You may want to check out my videos for some visuals and other tips.  There's a lot so you will have to sort through what you actually want to see.

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Re: Beginner-No idea what to do.
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2014, 12:33:28 AM »
From your rather...detailed reply(thanks) It seems trout is the general purpose, all season fish for a greenhorn like myself to start on. Perch, seem like too much of a hassle to fish for, going ice fishing and all that, pike are scarce this time of year, and besides, they scare me. Not just their looks, but their teeth. YouTube has one to many videos of them taking a entire duck at a time.

So what should be taken is, ( in my mind) =

i head out to the nearest river, with my rod and ill fitted reel ,  line of either 10 or 5 lb test, depending on what you say, with some berkly power-bait and size ( idk, you tell me) baitholder hooks, and a few splitshot on the end with a bobber.

I also pack a size 3 inline spinner with a treble hook ( or whatever size you say i pick up, or alternatively a spoon with a treble hook, both of sizes(spoon and treble) you say)

And a mister twister artificial rubber grub with a hook on it, ( again, whatever size you say )

and any extra contraptions needed for a setup= swivels, leaders, slip weights, you name it.

(Sorry, i haven't seen a full size trout in real life before, so i have no idea of the size of hook that corresponds to what is needed.)

And with all 3 setups for catching trout in random unknown water body ( general guidelines for what to look for would be nice) i head off, with a reasonable chance of success.

I understand it cannot be taught, its a long term gain in knowlage, but there are surely some general guidelines on what to do yes?
Thanks for the videos. Ill be sure to go over them in detail. Just subscribed.
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Re: Beginner-No idea what to do.
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2014, 08:19:42 AM »
here is a couple videos that will teach you how to do the basic river fishing(no live bait minnows in Alberta) and trout ponds

Get 2014 Barry Mitchell's - Alberta Fishing Guide for reports on lakes & rivers in your area.. most fishing stores

read fishing regs for rules

hope this helps

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