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Paul

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Early whitetail rut
« on: October 23, 2012, 01:57:37 PM »
I am hearing the ruts going to be early this year, bucks are already moving, scraping, sparring. My cousin said he saw a decent buck chasing a doe around his hay field yesterday afternoon wide open.

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2012, 04:47:34 PM »
Guess I must be up North. 

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2012, 05:06:08 PM »
Good, I'll be in the bush from Nov 1 - 18. 
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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2012, 05:40:12 PM »
Only seeing doe's over here, no bucks with em.

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 07:22:47 PM »
i saw 3  bucks together yesterday out west of lodgepole...  2 3x3 and 1 4x4...   seen lots of does but nthn chasing them yet... but i tell ya what the moose were at it early this year

maybe this means we will have an early spring

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2012, 08:39:03 PM »
Correct me if I am wrong, but pretty sure it's just a pipe dream this time of the season to think the rut is near.

A few playing around is just typical really..   What I have experienced is the mature animals will actually separate from their summer / early fall patterns and let the boys be boys...

Pretty sure light and lunar have the biggest effect on does and estrus.. 

Good luck all...

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2012, 10:35:23 PM »
Correct me if I am wrong, but pretty sure it's just a pipe dream this time of the season to think the rut is near.

A few playing around is just typical really..   What I have experienced is the mature animals will actually separate from their summer / early fall patterns and let the boys be boys...

Pretty sure light and lunar have the biggest effect on does and estrus.. 

Good luck all...

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2012, 01:05:06 AM »

Pretty sure light and lunar have the biggest effect on does and estrus.. 

Good luck all...

That's what I'm hearing though the lunar schedule is predicting an early rut.

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 08:54:08 PM »
That's what I'm hearing though the lunar schedule is predicting an early rut.

I noticed the lunar cycle this year is different, but our cycle of day light hours never seems to change..   Typically a few days one way or another is the norm..

Tagged out early Sept, so just riding the pine now  8)

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 11:29:08 PM »
you hear nonsense like this every year.  weather, moonphase, temperature.....its all just what guys notice.  the rut is determined by the photoperiod.  end of story.  hours of daylight regulate breeding to ensure that the fawns hit the ground at the same time every year.  it has to be that way to ensure survival.  rut too early and the fawns are born too early and they will die in the cold of late spring.  too late and they will be too small going into the following winter.  nature has got it figured out, and it has been the same forever.

for all the bunk you hear about a cold snap turning on the rut.....its BS.  what you see is increased daytime movement as the animals must eat and move more just to regulate body temps.  when the does move more, you see the bucks following more.  when it swarm in november, they are still doing their thing, but daytime movement is less.
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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 09:31:50 AM »
you hear nonsense like this every year.  weather, moonphase, temperature.....its all just what guys notice.  the rut is determined by the photoperiod.  end of story.  hours of daylight regulate breeding to ensure that the fawns hit the ground at the same time every year.  it has to be that way to ensure survival.  rut too early and the fawns are born too early and they will die in the cold of late spring.  too late and they will be too small going into the following winter.  nature has got it figured out, and it has been the same forever.

for all the bunk you hear about a cold snap turning on the rut.....its BS.  what you see is increased daytime movement as the animals must eat and move more just to regulate body temps.  when the does move more, you see the bucks following more.  when it swarm in november, they are still doing their thing, but daytime movement is less.

Agree one of the best ruts I have noted it was 14 degrees out in November and the bucks were everywhere, weather means squat. I also know that the amount of light in the day is what controls the rut, but I am not totally convinced that's the only factor.

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Re: Early whitetail rut
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2012, 11:21:24 AM »
The little bit of snow we have had IMO has slowed things up a bit.  I have been seeing less deer lately.