A lot of people have some Walt Disney ideas about how natives only shoot what they need, eat it all, use it all, etc. etc.  It's not true.  I've hunted with a couple of ethical native hunters; there are more that just slaughter everything.

If you read back in history, you'll find accounts of natives with newly-acquired firearms killing all the game in an area in the 19th century.

I don't know why that should surprise anyone, really.   Ever seen a buffalo jump?  What did people think happened when hundreds of buffalo were stampeded over a 20ft. cliff?  Broken legs, broken backs, injured animals limping away......A lot was butchered but I'd say even more than that went to waste.  If we don't get a handle on this thing, and soon, there'll be nothing left.

With Métis hunting now allowed in Manitoba, their healthy moose populations have been decimated.

Subsistence hunting does not exist south of the 60th.   In fact, if you consider that every household in Attawapiskat received an average of $280g per year over the last 10 years, tax-free, I might be too generous in that latitude.

Well I hate to see rumors told as fact but I know that in the arae where I hunt moose you can't find one anywhere near the road this winter and several have been taken. The trucks I see driving up and down the road in the evening have Manitoba plates and natives in the trucks. This area in east central Sask. Is in trouble for hunting. Seems wrong to me.

Some good facts you brought up Rocky.Several years ago we paid a visit to 'Head Smashed in Buffola Jump'. It was quite interesting to learn of the way the indians survived before the time of modern weapons. I can imagine the animals that suffered and were wasted at the jumps was humongous. What really interested me was the different artifacts that were found and can still be found at the site today.

Here's a little presentation of the jump. Anyone who hasn't visited I would urge you to do so, it's quite an interesting place.

Indeed, it is.  I roamed around there before it was a park.  It was a good spot for killing buffalo, alright.  Nowhere to dodge off to the side.

I'm not ragging on anyone, I'm just saying what the facts are.  The facts are that Indians did not use all of the meat and hide of every animal they killed, far from it.  Period.  As I said, there are accounts of Indians with guns who wiped out all the game in an area in the 19th century.  Does anybody seriously think that all the parts of all those animals was used?  Seriously?

This liberal, Walt Disney thinking we have been fed is simply wrong.  It is now being played out in reality and our game animals will be wiped out unless we start to speak up and speak truth.

Wow guys i counted over 8 guys in Manitoba and in Alberta in 2008 the number of animals killed on the Hi-ways was 16300 and the number of deer was 13500 and the cost in insurance was 250 million.. in Wainwright one group got 12 deer .. OMG .. .Some people need to hate things and see the bad before they inform themselfs..

We're talking about moose and elk.  Maybe sheep,too.  The deer will come next.

Yes, some people do need to inform themselves.  Better listening wouldn't hurt, either.

here is some info on Manitoba's Elk

please show the facts on native over harvests?

because if there were Native over harvest in Alberta or any where then there would be no Hunting of any kind .. Grizzly/Cariboo/Sage Grouse.. natives did not cause these

David




Wild Animals of Manitoba

Elk Fact Sheet

Elk formerly occurred in central and southwestern Manitoba. They are now restricted to the Riding Mountain, Duck Mountain, Porcupine Hills, southern Interlake, Spruce Woods, Red Deer River, and the Swan River Valley areas. The Riding Mountain population normally accounts for 40 to 50% of total provincial elk numbers. An estimated 3,500 elk are found in the Riding Mountain area, 2,000 in the Duck Mountain area, 300 in the Porcupine Hills area, 100 at Red Deer Lake, 400 in the Spruce Woods area, 800 in the southern portions of the Interlake, and about 250 that have taken up residence in the Swan River Valley. Small satellite herds exist in the Pine River-Ethelbert, Kettle Hills, Piney, Oak-Plum Lakes, Souris River Bend WMA, Rock Lake, and Turtle Mountain areas. New satellite herds recently appeared in the Kettle Hills and Piney areas. Many of these satellite groups may never become established as they quickly go beyond the tolerance of local landowners if the herds expand and cause damage on private land.

Demand by hunters is far greater than the available elk hunting opportunities. Elk hunting licenses are available only through a limited entry draw system to residents of Manitoba. Seasons included rifle, archery, and landowner-only.

A comprehensive management strategy for the overall provincial population has been developed by Manitoba Conservation. Detailed harvest strategies for individual herds are currently being developed.

Extending rights based hunting to the metis is the biggest problem.